Rockford Fosgate Punch 200IX

seankane · 5th May 2011, 11:34 PM

Can anyone tell me the value of R157 and R257? They are very burnt and I can't read the color codes.

Perry Babin · 5th May 2011, 11:56 PM

220 ohms.

I emailed you the schematic diagram.

seankane · 6th May 2011, 12:08 AM

Thanks Perry got it.

seankane · 01:39 AM

Ok stay with me this amp seems to be a basket case.

Rebuilt power supply and all is well with that.

4 new IRF3205's, 4 new 47ohm gates, 4 new driver transistors. Amp powers up fine and idles.

L&R channels have recieved all new output fets, all new gate drives, and all new emitter resistors.

R157 and R257 have been replaced.

LM339 reads as follows:

pin 1: 4.41 vdc
pin 2: 4.41 vdc
pin 3: 17.87 vdc
pin 4: 0.188 vdc
pin 5: 2.995 vdc
pin 6: 4.34 vdc
pin 7: 4.99 vdc
pin 8: 4.67 vdc
pin 9: 2.916 vdc
pin10: 4.99 vdc
pin11: 8.21 vdc
pin12: 0.002 vdc
pin13: 4.39 vdc
pin14: 0.080 vdc

Amp produces 75.5vdc rail voltage and all op-amps have -16/+16 vdc on supply pins.

L+ bridging terminal has 16.5 vdc

R- bridging terminal has -2 vdc and bleeds down fast

The left channel wont bias and is very distorted, and the right channel has audio but tries to bias as soon as you try and turn the pot at all.

Q242, Q244, Q245 all have no rail voltage and have +37 vdc on their drains.

243, Q246, Q247 have rail voltage and have -1.950 vdc on their drains and bleeding down fast.

Q143, Q146, Q147 have rail voltage and all have +15 vdc on their drains.

Q142, Q144, Q145 have 1/2 rail voltage and all have +37 vdc on their drains.

I know this is alot of info but thought someone could kick it around looking at a schematic and maybe point me in the right direction to start.

Perry Babin · 6th May 2011, 01:32 AM

Let's start with the 200-series channel.

Are you saying that the source legs of Q243 has no rail voltage?

seankane · 6th May 2011, 01:37 AM

Q242, Q244, Q245 source legs have no rail voltage.

Q243, Q246, Q247 source legs have rail voltage.

seankane · 6th May 2011, 01:38 AM

I goofed up in my typing in the original post these new readings are correct.

Perry Babin · 6th May 2011, 01:48 AM

What's the DC voltage across R266?

seankane · 6th May 2011, 01:50 AM

-0.176 vdc across R266

Perry Babin · 6th May 2011, 03:20 AM

Post the voltage on all three terminals of the following transistors. Place the black meter probe on one of the non-bridging speaker terminals. Place the red meter probe on the point where you need to measure the voltage.

Q128
B:
C:
E:

Q129
B:
C:
E:

Q118
B:
C:
E:

Q119
B:
C:
E:

5th May 2011, 11:34 PM	#1
seankane diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington State	Rockford Fosgate Punch 200IX Can anyone tell me the value of R157 and R257? They are very burnt and I can't read the color codes.

5th May 2011, 11:56 PM	#2
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	220 ohms. I emailed you the schematic diagram. __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair --- Basic Car Audio Electronics --- Basic Transistor Testing --- Basic Switching Power Supply Design --- Basic Computer Skills << Links

6th May 2011, 01:20 AM	#4
seankane diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington State	Ok stay with me this amp seems to be a basket case. Rebuilt power supply and all is well with that. 4 new IRF3205's, 4 new 47ohm gates, 4 new driver transistors. Amp powers up fine and idles. L&R channels have recieved all new output fets, all new gate drives, and all new emitter resistors. R157 and R257 have been replaced. LM339 reads as follows: pin 1: 4.41 vdc pin 2: 4.41 vdc pin 3: 17.87 vdc pin 4: 0.188 vdc pin 5: 2.995 vdc pin 6: 4.34 vdc pin 7: 4.99 vdc pin 8: 4.67 vdc pin 9: 2.916 vdc pin10: 4.99 vdc pin11: 8.21 vdc pin12: 0.002 vdc pin13: 4.39 vdc pin14: 0.080 vdc Amp produces 75.5vdc rail voltage and all op-amps have -16/+16 vdc on supply pins. L+ bridging terminal has 16.5 vdc R- bridging terminal has -2 vdc and bleeds down fast The left channel wont bias and is very distorted, and the right channel has audio but tries to bias as soon as you try and turn the pot at all. Q242, Q244, Q245 all have no rail voltage and have +37 vdc on their drains. 243, Q246, Q247 have rail voltage and have -1.950 vdc on their drains and bleeding down fast. Q143, Q146, Q147 have rail voltage and all have +15 vdc on their drains. Q142, Q144, Q145 have 1/2 rail voltage and all have +37 vdc on their drains. I know this is alot of info but thought someone could kick it around looking at a schematic and maybe point me in the right direction to start. Last edited by seankane; 6th May 2011 at 01:39 AM.

6th May 2011, 01:32 AM	#5
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	Let's start with the 200-series channel. Are you saying that the source legs of Q243 has no rail voltage? __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair --- Basic Car Audio Electronics --- Basic Transistor Testing --- Basic Switching Power Supply Design --- Basic Computer Skills << Links

6th May 2011, 01:48 AM	#8
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	What's the DC voltage across R266? __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair --- Basic Car Audio Electronics --- Basic Transistor Testing --- Basic Switching Power Supply Design --- Basic Computer Skills << Links


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6th May 2011, 12:08 AM	#3
seankane diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington State	Thanks Perry got it.

6th May 2011, 01:37 AM	#6
seankane diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington State	Q242, Q244, Q245 source legs have no rail voltage. Q243, Q246, Q247 source legs have rail voltage.

6th May 2011, 01:38 AM	#7
seankane diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington State	I goofed up in my typing in the original post these new readings are correct.

6th May 2011, 01:50 AM	#9
seankane diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington State	-0.176 vdc across R266

6th May 2011, 03:20 AM	#10
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	Post the voltage on all three terminals of the following transistors. Place the black meter probe on one of the non-bridging speaker terminals. Place the red meter probe on the point where you need to measure the voltage. Q128 B: C: E: Q129 B: C: E: Q118 B: C: E: Q119 B: C: E: __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair --- Basic Car Audio Electronics --- Basic Transistor Testing --- Basic Switching Power Supply Design --- Basic Computer Skills << Links

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