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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Hello forum, Hello Perry,
one user pm`ed me, asking me to solve his problem to solder some AQXM2-modules (don`t ask me why... )Anyway, I faced the same problem in the past (even here in germany they are hard to get and each modules cost around 5 EURO!!!) and I want to share my workaround so far, as i allready did in another german forum... --------------------------------------------------------------------- as you allready know, because STEG keeped telling us all the time... The cut-off frequencies of the electronic crossover are selectable with maximum precision (1% tolerance compared to <20% of potis) through insertion of the optional AQXM2-module available at dealers in the values indicated. The AQXM2-module is inserted in the small opening located on the lower panel of the amplifier. Available AQXM2-modules with following cut-off-frequencies in Hz: 25,30,33,35,38,40,45,50,55,60,65,70,75,80,85,90,95 ,100,110,120,130, 150,180,200,250,300,350,400,450,500,600,700,800,90 0,1000,1100,1200, 1300,1400,1500,1800,2000,2500,3000,3500,4000,4500, 5000,5500,6000, 6500,7000,7500,8000,8500. --------------------------------------------------------------------- So, when you look at the following picture in the link, you will see that these modules are just 4 resistors in parallel (resistor array with 4 resistors and 8 legs): http://www.klangfuzzis.de/download/f...0dad&mode=view I started to measure and collect all data on AQXM2-modules I could get. This is what I have so far: AQXM2-modules with: f[Hz] R[Ohm] of each resistor (all 4 the same) 30 920000 50 255000 75 137000 80 124000 85 115000 100 93000 120 73000 150 56000 200 40000 250 31400 400 19000 500 15000 600 12300 1500 4840 2000 3600 3000 2430 3500 2100 4500 1600 5000 1470 Then I`ve build the following equation in a "quick and dirty way" to calculate the missing modules: with f (frequency in Hz) and R (resistance in Ohm) f(R) = -3,037196759877982e+38 * 1/R^10 +8,184265391205442e+35 * 1/R^9 -8,932673700429702e+32 * 1/R^8 +5,0467987697890055e+29 * 1/R^7 -1,5550278602968464e+26 * 1/R^6 +2,46610221256473e+22 * 1/R^5 -1461279027298205700 * 1/R^4 -53885414305615 * 1/R^3 +7474954885 * 1/R^2 + 6988861 * 1/R + 23 ...using the linear regression method (thanks by the way Mr. Gauß )If you need more information on that, please click the following link: Linear regression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Attached you will find the pdf file with the results in excel/openoffice calc. green = measured correct resistance of modules yellow = calculated resistance of modules (please post if available) red = missing data (please post if available) If you post the resistances of the modules in the red and yellow fields, I will improove the equation and will also post the excel file. This will help STEG-owner to build their individual modules... Thanks for reading... |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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It appears that they may be using 0.018uf capacitors in the crossover. If so, you can calculate the resistors with the formula 1/(2*Pi*F*C).
For 80Hz: 1/(2*3.14*80*0.018^-6) = 110524 ohms or nearest available value For 1kHz: 1/(2*3.14*1000*0.018^-6) = 8842 ohms or nearest available value
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Hello Perry,
yes you are right, i also started with rc circuit in series... f = 1 / (2 * pi * R * C) --> R = 1 / (2 * pi * f * C) but the result is always way far from the real resistors... do i miss something? |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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How far were the calculated values from the actual values?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Hello Perry,
here is the deviation chart... ![]() f[Hz] R[Ohm] R[Ohm]calc deviation in % 30 920000 294881 -211,99 50 255000 176929 -44,13 75 137000 117952 -16,15 80 124000 110580 -12,14 85 115000 104076 -10,50 100 93000 88464 -5,13 120 73000 73720 0,98 150 56000 58976 5,05 200 40000 44232 9,57 250 31400 35386 11,26 400 19000 22116 14,09 500 15000 17693 15,22 600 12300 14744 16,58 1500 4840 5898 17,93 2000 3600 4423 18,61 3000 2430 2949 17,59 3500 2100 2528 16,92 4500 1600 1966 18,61 5000 1470 1769 16,92 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Have you done a frequency sweep to see if the original modules produce the stated crossover point?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Can you help me with the 24db slope?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
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for R u can use
f=(7233669/R)+21.92 R=7233669/(f-21.92) |
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