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Join Date: Oct 2010
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when i apply remote voltage the amp will constantly turn on and off (drawing current) i'm assuming that's the protection making it turn on and off. so i opened it a noticed the 2 filter caps (C26,C27) were bubbled out, i don't think they actually vented but i replaced them anyway. the amp still did the same thing (on/off) so i checked the rectifiers and found one bad (D9)(not shorted but the resistance check was out of tollerance). while i had the rectifiers out i powered up the amp with no problem (perfect square wave & virtually no current draw). so i replaced the bad one and reinstalleed the good one. but when i attempted to power up the amp it did the exact same thing (on/off). non of the outputs are shorted but i did notice that the Q410 & Q411 outputs were getting hotter than any of the other outputs. i removed them from the circuit and they checked out okay. while they were out i attempted to power up the amp with the same results (on/off). so i reinstalled them and removed their drivers (Q408 & Q409), they checked out okay. so i tried to power up the amp with them out and now the amp will stay on but is still drawing current.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Is the bias current set too high for that channel?
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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all 4 of the bias pots appear to be in identical possitions so i haven't messed with them.
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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with the drivers (Q408 & Q409) still out i turned all 4 bias pots all the way down and all the exessive current draw went away. so i reinstalled the drivers and powered up the amp now it will stay on but is still drawing current and the same outputs will get hot. so i looked at the output of the defective channel and it has a fuzzy signal, i couldn't really get it locked in to my scope or i would give you a pic. the adjacent channel has a very small signal on it but i think it's comming from this channel. the other 2 channels seem fine.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Does the noise (and high current draw) remain in all gain and crossover positions?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
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NO, MESSING WITH THE GAIN & X-OVERS DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ALTHOUGH MOVING THE GAIN DID HELP ME LOCK IT IN.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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When you checked the outputs, did you confirm that there was absolutely no continuity (OL on ohms) between the gate and the other two legs?
When the drivers were out, was there any DC voltage on the defective channel (measured directly across the speaker terminals)?
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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i just rechecked the outputs and they seem okay. i have some 540/9540's on hand, should i try those in place of the originals?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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If there was infinite resistance between leg 1 and the other two legs, they're probably OK.
In some of these amps, Rockford used BUZxxx transistors that commonly failed shorted leg 1 to leg 3. This generally caused the half of the signal to be clipped but didn't cause excessive current draw. When the drivers were out, was there any DC voltage on the defective channel (measured directly across the speaker terminals)?
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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with the drivers out it has .5vdc on that channel.
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