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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Schwerin
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I have trouble with the left channel of my Rockford Fosgate 800a2 amp.
It began with noisy/distorted sounds from the loudspeaker at normal volume. When I raise the volume up the distortion disapears. It also stays away when I lower the volume. When I turned the amp of for about one hour the problem becomes the same again. First I thought that it was a bad connection to the speakers but now the distortion won't go away anymore, even if I raise the volume up. I have also checked the gainpots. Today I send a sine tone to the amp and check the speakerterminals with a oscope: right channel: ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us left channel: ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us can anyone tell me whats wrong with this amp??? |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Does the waveform change when you connect a load to the channel?
Is this with or without a load? Do you have a clean signal on C201?
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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I have also checked this on every of the outlined mosfets with the same result, but always without load.
tomorrow I will check it with load connected. (I got the amp at work) ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Schwerin
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OK, I got the same result while a 8ohm computer speaker is connected.
Where should I grab the signal on c201? between c201 and r201? -> there it is the same problem. |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Both side of the capacitor should have the same signal.
Are you saying it's distorted on the capacitor?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Schwerin
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I only checked it between c201 and r201 with the oscilloscope.
And the visual is the same as the visual I got at the speakerterminal. |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Drive a signal into the defective channel only and check the signal on the outputs pins (pins 1 and 7) of every op-amp. For the ones with signal, which are distorted and which have a clean signal.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
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What kind of scope is that? Looks like a heathkit or something home built. Looks cool.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Schwerin
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hehe
![]() this is a good old RFT EO211 made in GDR ![]() I think this scope is as old as me. I checked the op-amps, u102, u104 and the a output (pin1) from u103 looks good. but the b output (pin 7) from u103 got the problem. does that mean that u103 is defective or is it something else? Thank you for your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Schwerin
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haa!
I think I have found the problem! I checked pin 5 and 6 (channel b input and inverted input) they also got this problem. So I traced it a little back and found out that c107 is the part where the damaged sine wave comes from! between r199 and c107 the sine wave looks correct, but between c107 and c108 it looks damaged. do you think that simply changing this cap will solve the problem or could there be anything else that cause this cap to fail? |
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