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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Benito , Texas
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I am working on a DB Drive 1200 that the power supply mosfets were bad changed and would power up ( with current limiter ) and would go in to protection . Removed rectifiers and powers on and no high current draw. Put back in the rectifiers and the protection light comes on . Took out the output drive boards still in protection . put back in the drive boards . Bypassed the protection on the 494 , turned on high current draw , but when I remove the outputs everything is ok ? All the output transistor test OK good ? Thank you in advance , Hector .
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Have you checked all of the outputs to confirm that none are leaking (electrically)?
Does this amp use an LM361 (on the driver board behind the RCA jacks)? Are the driver boards in sockets or are they soldered into the main board?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Benito , Texas
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How do I mesure outputs for leakage ?
No sure Will check later on , alot of work here at the shop . Yes soldered to main board , ugh I hate them . |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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ChipQuik makes getting those types of boards out quick and easy.
If they're not shorted, check for continuity from the gate (leg 1) to the other two legs. You should read an open circuit (meter set to ohms). If any read anything other than an open circuit, they are defective.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Benito , Texas
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LOL just saw a youtube video about ChipQuik that stuff works ! Will order next time from digikey , Thanks .
Ok I will check on that , makes sense to . I was thinking that I should just order some news for that reason of not being 100% sure. Yes I tested them with diode mode like your web page says to . I didnt know about how the mosfets set to ohms should read open to all other pins . Will report back later . Thank you. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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When using CQ to remove driver boards, use the following procedure:
Using this method, you'd apply flux to all of the solder connections and then apply enough CQ alloy so that ~1/2 of the pins of each 5-6 pin group are bridged. After you've applied the alloy, touch your iron to the tip of each pin and heat it until you can move the pin around in the via. Do this for all pins. This helps to promote the mixing of the alloy and the standard solder through the depth of the via. There should still be sufficient alloy on the pins so that ~1/2 are bridged. Now, run your iron back and forth across the pins (not touching the pads). Stay on each group for 3-4 seconds then move to the next group. Two groups are generally the limit when you only have one iron. Go back and forth between the groups of pins. GENTLY try to move the board. When all of the pins are moving, begin to pull the vertical board away from the main board. When done properly, the vertical board will pull out with absolutely no damage to the vias or pads in the main board.
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Benito , Texas
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[QUOTE=Perry Babin;2385191]Have you checked all of the outputs to confirm that none are leaking (electrically)?
Yes (2) 9540 and (2) 640 . Iam so happy now I know how to turn them on and now how to check for leakage . Thank you, Perry . Does this amp use an LM361 (on the driver board behind the RCA jacks)? Righ behind the RCAs are NJM2068LD JRC3004G (8) , A3003B 16 pin (1) , TL072 smd 8 pin (1) , and one on each drive board A393F 8 pin . |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Benito , Texas
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Ok put in place (2) 9540 and (2) 640 outputs good mosfets , now Iam getting hi pitch sound from the power supply mosfets and the led protection led and the on led light (good led) flashed bright and dimmed out burning the both of them . I removed the power led light and it has ground but the + positive side has 43 plus volts ?? Its connected to one end of a zener diode (good) and then to a resistor (good) and then to a mylar cap 9 (it has the 43plus voltage on both sides) then ends at the 2nd transformer side (postive side) ..??
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Benito , Texas
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Im thinking some of the power supply mosfets are burned out. I am going to take them out will post whats the deal with that sound ?.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Can you post a photo of the driver board directly behind the RCA jacks? I need to see the components on the driver board.
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