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Old 8th March 2010, 06:23 PM   #1
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Exclamation Voltage collapsing when leads are connected to amp

I have an Alpine mrp-m450.
I removed it and reinstalled it in order to paint my speaker box.
Upon hooking it back up, the power light came on for a few seconds and went off.
I have tested the power, ground, and remote leads when disconnected from the amp.
They are all operating properly.

However,...
when I connect them to the amp,
the power lead drops to around 6-7 volts
which leads to the amp not working.

I have taken the amp apart and not noticed any burnt transistors.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks ahead of time.
I will post more info and updates asap.

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Old 8th March 2010, 07:13 PM   #2
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The problem is in the wiring in the vehicle. If the amp was drawing enough current to drag the voltage to 6v, the fuse would have blown in the B+ line feeding the amp. I'm assuming that the vehicle's battery is in good condition and able to start the vehicle.
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The problem is in the wiring in the vehicle. If the amp was drawing enough current to drag the voltage to 6v, the fuse would have blown in the B+ line feeding the amp. I'm assuming that the vehicle's battery is in good condition and able to start the vehicle.
Yup.
I'll go further and wager its a ground issue...
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Old 8th March 2010, 07:47 PM   #4
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The amps power wire is connected directly to the battery and has an inline fuse.
The ground is connected to the trunk metal via a bolt.
The wiring was not changed as I only removed and reinstalled the amp.
The amp worked fine before.
...
I went out side to double check as I was typing this....
The amp is now turning on and voltage is fine.
(strange because no change since last time i checked)

But now....
there is absolutely no output (audio input is good).
(May have accidentally touched wires in the past 2 days of testing)

Still no sign of burnt transistors.
The amp is open and connected.
Any particulars I should check ?
Any help greatly appreciated!
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Old 8th March 2010, 07:53 PM   #5
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Double checked a second ago...
wiggled the ground.

Amp is now turning on and voltages are correct.

But now...
there is NO output whatsoever (audio input is good).
(May have touched/crossed wires in the past 2 days of tryin to figure this out)

The amp is opened and connected.
Still no sign of burnt transistors.
Fuses are still all good.
Any particulars I should check?
Any help greatly appreciated.

I am no stranger to soldering on pcbs and components.
If only I could figure out which components need to be replace.
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Old 8th March 2010, 09:06 PM   #6
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How did you confirm that the signal line feeding the amp had audio?
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Old 8th March 2010, 09:06 PM   #7
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Check your speaker leads, too.
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Old 11th March 2010, 12:54 AM   #8
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but some of my transistors (IRFZ44N) on the output side are reading >1 volt

http://www.bcae1.com/images/gifs/trnchk04.gif

is this normal?
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Old 11th March 2010, 01:16 AM   #9
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is a voltage regulator essentially a transistor
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Old 11th March 2010, 01:46 AM   #10
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Many voltage regulators use transistors but not all.

Reading >1v? How was that measured?
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