why are old school amps worth so much?

[damage]

The insides are probably a Z200C2. I bid on a couple of Zapco as they went real cheap. But I didn't try too hard to win them because I have enough Zapcos already. Still... I regret not getting them now.

But I did buy a '25 to life' Punch 150 for $160 shipped. So that's why I passed on the Zapcos.

[ppia600]

Sorry for the shameless plug but I'm selling my earthquake phd2 and the pyramid/PPI 2075 on ebay. Might even sell the a600.2 amps. I'm thinking of getting one multichannel amp and calling it a day. I don't have any subs to run with the phd2 and even though the ppi's are awesome I am all about shaving weight on my car. Although I love deep loud bass I don't need it and no one that rides with me cares for anything louder than headunit power

[acebaker]

Man this thead starting to wander. The best thing about "Old School Amps" most still sound pretty good and they are repairable. Too bad that sound quality goes down so fast as the car goes up in speed. Everthing sounds better at the competition.

[ppia600]

Lol my amps don't sound any worse when the car is going faster. But yeah the older ones are usually easier to repair and your ear can't tell the difference in a 1991 and 2002 ppi 300 watt rms amp so...

[mjh7096]

Excellent thread and the best I have ever read on old school amps.

[tsmith1315]

Originally Posted by ppia600

Although I love deep loud bass I don't need it and no one that rides with me cares for anything louder than headunit power

You'll be back .

As long as you're shamelessly promoting, why don't post the item #'s?

[mjh7096]

Originally Posted by ppia600

I really think there is only one "old school" era of car audio, and that is of the first ten years it was being produced. When all of the major companies had just sprouted and decided to move into the car audio business. Its almost like calling Biggie Smalls or Kanye West "old school" when they aren't. I don't really listen to rap/hip hop but I consider earlier rappers like Too Short, Easy E, and groups like NWA "old school" for example. I really get tired of hearing the term "old school" get used for everything. Just like how someone mentioned the amps being sold on ebay that are barely ten years old being sold as "old school", give me a break...

I am 40 and started out in car audio in 1988. I use 1996-2000 era RF in both of my vehicles. While I wouldn't call them old school like my punch 75 (1st generation), they are from a time when RF used heavy duty heatsinks, top quality components, were still US made and still were being produced by their original engineers before they left in 2002.

[0ldSch00lf00l]

Originally Posted by damage

The insides are probably a Z200C2. I bid on a couple of Zapco as they went real cheap. But I didn't try too hard to win them because I have enough Zapcos already. Still... I regret not getting them now.

But I did buy a '25 to life' Punch 150 for $160 shipped. So that's why I passed on the Zapcos.

I have one of those 25 to Life Punch 150s that I need to pull from an install. Every now and again, it flat out refuses to turn on. Then when I start probing wires with my meter, only to see that everything is good at the amplifier, it kicks on. I am assuming it has a bad solder joint at the circuit board for either the power, ground, or remote... At least I hope that is what my problem is.

[damage]

It's overkill. Way more than I need. I'm sure I will be selling it. Especially since is about the size of 3 old 150s put together.

[djQUAN]

what's the difference between a Soundstream P203 and the P203e? there's someone selling the P203 locally for about $87. thinking of getting it for a simple system in dad's pickup... worth getting or not? haven't checked the actual condition of the amp though...