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    I found some more suitable EDLCs

    No, not yet tried that - too much fun listening to the music right now to get into that. Think I'll do a bit of simulation first to get a handle on what the variations might look like in practice.
    Posted 27th August 2014 at 05:24 AM by abraxalito abraxalito is offline
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    I found some more suitable EDLCs

    Have you tried scoping or sampling what the voltages are at the power supply interface to the chips, right at the junction of the metal leg with the the plastic of the body, while the circuit is running? Could be tricky to monitor with sufficient precision, both in amplitude and frequency, to see whether there is any voltage glitching there, for any reason - and I agree it is most likely self-generated - but it may be instructive. Of course, the probing itself may upset the operation to some degree - but you should be able to get a handle on this by listening with, and without, the probe.
    Posted 27th August 2014 at 05:03 AM by fas42 fas42 is offline
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    I found some more suitable EDLCs

    Yeah its not about size, (or numbers) but effectiveness and that can't be reduced to a quantity no matter what Lord Kelvin might think.

    Living space is already dominated by power supply Frank, in the sense that bags of caps litter my floor, I can barely shift the chair at my desk without shifting a bag or two around to make space. Still now I won't be acquiring normal type caps as supercaps are so much more, ummm, 'super' at getting the sound I'm addicted to. Its really rather surprising that so far I've not uncovered a single audio application in a poweramp of supercaps. I'm not even sure Gilbert Yeung is using supercaps in his preamp (even though he has 300F+ on his supply).

    Yes cleanliness of the PSU seems to be crucial, and my gut tells me its in the lower frequencies where the supercaps are making the difference. To get to 1mohm impedance at 20Hz we need 8F on the rails. So 350F as here is overkill but its needed to get the ESR not to dominate the impedance.

    I'm open to suggestions towards getting LF noise down on the rails - more efficient would be great. I don't know yet if the noise is self-generated (from the ICs themselves) or from the feeding supply. My working hypothesis is its the former because I tend to agree with you that static noise isn't an issue - normal hiss doesn't seem to interfere with how the sound is perceived. But correlate the noise with the signal and then the brain's decoding processes get interfered with.

    Come to think of it, a few months ago, when I was still using AD605 I came up with a circuit intended to nullify (by cancellation) the varying supply current with signal. I might resurrect that schematic and apply it to the AD815. The idea was simple - use a second chip as a 'working model' amplifier and measure in real-time its supply current and use that measurement to correct for the chip doing the real amplification. I had a series of current mirrors to do the fancy footwork. But first it might be instructive to see what variations of supply current are internal to the chip, once the output's loaded with CCSs.
    Posted 27th August 2014 at 03:14 AM by abraxalito abraxalito is offline
    Updated 27th August 2014 at 03:54 AM by abraxalito
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    I found some more suitable EDLCs

    It's not the size, it's how you use it, ...

    This is getting a bit ridiculous, Richard, ... you might have to fill up your living space with power supply, at the rate you're going ...

    This is all saying to me that the "cleanness" of the power supply to the chips is absolutely crucial - so, personally, I would try to nail a bit more the noise frequencies on the supply lines that are not allowing the chips to work at their best, and then have a more "efficient" way for ensuring that the chips don't see those nasties in their environment.

    But otherwise, excellent that the sound is still improving, in the ways you describe, ...
    Posted 27th August 2014 at 01:00 AM by fas42 fas42 is offline
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    Windows volume control settings in dB.

    Thanks for putting that up, makes sense from my subjective impressions ...
    Posted 24th August 2014 at 01:40 AM by fas42 fas42 is offline
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