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Are PSRR plots all they're cracked up to be?

Posted 15th April 2015 at 04:19 AM by abraxalito

My experiments last autumn with putting a transformer between a chipamp and a drive unit left me with one nagging question. Why was the sound so much clearer with the trafo than without, given that the trafo's voltage ratio was relatively low (1.5:1)? Even Frank was surprised at so much change and suggested some other effect was in play (amp instability). I've not ruled out amp instability but I have made some progress on understanding chipamp PSRR.

The first trafo experiment was done with the TDA7265 - I've since tried trafos on two other chipamps - TDA8947 and LM4766 with similar subjective results - a much clearer sound, more depth to the soundstage and so many tiny details on recordings becoming clearer that the experience has become akin to headphone listening. The trafo ratio has increased - 2.5:1 for the TDA8947 (21V rails, bridged) and 5:1 in the case of the LM4766 (again bridged), running on 62V total supply.

My current listening system is LM4766 with...
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TDA8946AJ headphone amplifier

Posted 20th March 2015 at 04:13 AM by abraxalito
Updated 23rd March 2015 at 06:40 AM by abraxalito

I built this up to see how the TDA8946AJ DC-controlled volume element sounds. According to the datasheet and comparing the figures with those for the same amp minus the volume control (TDA8946J) there's some additional THD so I was curious to hear how transparent it is.

There are transformers both on the input and the output of this. On the input to match levels (4:1 step down) and to do unbal-bal conversion. On the output again for the same reasons, except bal-unbal to drive my phones which I've not modified for 4 wire operation. The trafos are ferrite (=very cheap) RM10 for the input (under the board) and RM12 for output (behind the board). In order to be able to match a variety of phones, I've wound 4 identical secondaries so they can be combined in series or parallel.

From the pic you'll see the customary array of caps - I need to order up some lowESR (preferably NCC) 1800uF caps to do better justice to the rails. Last night I experimented with some ceramics...
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My latest infatuation - transformers

Posted 25th October 2014 at 08:11 AM by abraxalito
Updated 6th November 2014 at 10:51 PM by abraxalito

I've found that some of the el-cheapo trafos (18rmb each) at a shop at the local electronics market are of split bobbin construction. This makes bodging up an audio OPT from two mains trafos a fairly straightforward matter.

I bought some with 9-0-9V and others with 0-12V secondaries. Then I disassembled them (fortunately they're not varnish dipped) and swapped out the 220V primary bobbin for the secondary of the other one. This gives me a trafo with 18V on the primary and 12V on the secondary, a step down of 1.5:1, impedance ratio of 2.25:1. So it makes a 4R drive unit appear as 9ohms to the chipamp.

And when I applied this to the output of the bass/mid of my chipamp (residing in the Phenix active speakers, its a TDA7265), apart from it sounding quieter I suddenly realized how much power supply noise I was still listening to. Incredible

So if you want to know if your chipamp PSU decoupling is really up to snuff, see how much difference a 1.5:1...
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The real story about closed vs open loop class D amps

Posted 11th July 2014 at 12:11 AM by abraxalito
Updated 23rd July 2014 at 09:51 AM by abraxalito

Very interesting paper which I'd not come across before which poses about as many questions as it answers. Thanks to Bob Cordell mentioning it in his book, here's the link :

http://www.eetasia.com/STATIC/PDF/20...URCES=DOWNLOAD

Compare the FFT in fig3 (closed loop) with fig4 (open loop) in the text - which do you think will sound better?

Here's my take on what the paper is claiming, FWIW. That PSRR measurements when the amp has a BTL (balanced) output aren't appropriate because there is output stage cancelling of them. My first head-scratch moment came because this is true of other amp topologies too, not just classD as BTL outputs are very much alive and well in NXP's range of chipamps for automotive use. So why restrict this to just classD?

Secondly what's the argument that PSRR in BTL amps isn't appropriate? They seem to be saying (though they don't express this very clearly) that whilst output stage...
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TDA8932 class D amp

Posted 27th May 2014 at 12:39 AM by abraxalito
Updated 16th June 2014 at 01:09 AM by abraxalito

One channel is completed - barring the off-board hexacap shunt - second channel under construction. Then for a comparison with the TDA1521s

Update1 - both channels running now, 160,000uF on each. Bass is tuneful but LF colourations noticeable on piano (Ashkenazy Diabelli Variations). Solution to this is simple - more caps

Update2 - an extra ring of caps around the original hexacaps now, so we're around 250,000uF. Bass is so much better than from the TPA3116 but the HF is more ragged, less transparency overall than the TPA3116. So I'll next try an outrageously decoupled implementation just to check I'm not limiting the chip with poor PSU hygiene....

Update3 - I have over 30 1206 10uF caps per side now as local decoupling - HF problems are slight. Makes me wonder if I use it only on the bass/mid and a TDA1521 for the tweeter duty we might reach audio nirvana.... Looking at the DS its easy to see why the HF's a bit of a mess - the PSRR is about...
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Line input RF reject filter

Posted 19th February 2013 at 07:24 AM by abraxalito
Updated 26th February 2013 at 03:09 AM by abraxalito (Added zoomed passband plot)

I've only simmed this so far, no listening tests. The aim here is to have a passive filter which works into a line level impedance (i.e. 10k or greater) and which gives a decent amount of RF rejection without compromising SQ. I plan to incorporate it behind the RCA input jacks of my chipamp.

Design-wise, it started life as a simple 2nd order filter with single series L and shunt C. But when it came to wind the inductor I didn't have a wire diameter small enough to make the required value (44mH). So I split up the inductor into 2 * 22mH and then couldn't resist hanging a cap off the centre tap. The result has turned more into an over-damped elliptic with a higher corner frequency than the original, but with an impeccable phase response to 20kHz. The elliptic-type plot comes about because of the SRF of the two inductors (around 350kHz).

Since fas42 remarked on the phase performance, I've added the group delay plot for the passband. Almost pure time delay of...
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High-end chipamp build project

Posted 24th January 2013 at 07:21 AM by abraxalito
Updated 15th February 2013 at 05:12 AM by abraxalito

Go here : Possibly the most frugal high-end sounding amp?

If you have comments, feedback, critique or improvements and don't want to put it on that thread, feel free to leave it in the comments here.

Here are the first measurements - the Nitro amp being fed by the Ozone DAC with a six-tone multiple, peak digital level -20dB. Peak output power around 100mW in an 8R speaker (connected for this test). It looks from this that the datasheet is a little pessimistic on THD, though here I'm measuring the TDA8566, not the 8561. No measurement graphs are presented in the 8566 DS and the 8561 only has plots for 2R and 4R loads, not 8R.

Schematic now added. BOM here : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Hc&usp=sharing

Additional schematic showing how to use TDA8566Q in place of TDA8561Q as the latter isn't available from Mouser. Mouser only has fewer than 300 TDA8566Q in stock so best...
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