Riaa component calculator

hacknet · 11th April 2006, 03:42 PM

hey guys,

i've been toying around with a couple phono stage simulations and i've been looking for a calculator that can help me churn out component values for the eq network.

be it a composite on or a split one. has anyone see any around?

thanks a million!!!

AndrewT · 11th April 2006, 04:26 PM

Hi,
try some of these for background & info.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1139076552
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1139341846
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1140854548

Will the correct Doug Self Wireless World RIAA please stand up?

hacknet · 11th April 2006, 04:36 PM

hey! thanks a million!!

AndrewT · 12th April 2006, 08:28 AM

Hi,
the Harms' excel sheet is much easier to use than the optimal, since optimal is designed specifically for ultra low error and to show the results.
I have posted my version with slightly tweaked values to see just how low the errors could be made and what error is permissible with component selection.

Resistor accuracy will require a good DMM, but required cap accuracy is beyond my test equipment. But the display will let me see what errors will result from component spread.

hagtech · 14th April 2006, 07:18 AM

Try this:

http://www.hagtech.com/equalization.html

jh

tcqanh · 12th November 2011, 03:42 PM

Hi all,

I'm doing adjust my RIAA circuit in my pre tube phono. my circuit is like in this http://www.mh-audio.nl/CalculateRIAA.asp.

with standard components based on that link was showed, I feel not satisfied on the bass.

So I need a software or some can estimate the result in chart.

Could any one help me ?

thanks a lot.

andyr · 12th November 2011, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcqanh

Hi all,

I feel not satisfied on the bass.

So I need a software or some can estimate the result in chart.

Could any one help me ?

thanks a lot.

Can I suggest the best way to get the bass you want is to either use SPICE to simulate the circuit - and then you can see what result you get from changing component values - or feed a signal from 20K to 20KHz through it (via a reverse RIAA board like Jim Hagerman's) and measure the output at each frequency on a 'scope. Then you can see what your phono stage is actually doing.

(For perfect RIAA equalisation, the output will be the same level for each frequency between 20 and 20KHz, using a reverse RIAA board.)

BTW, the passive composite RIAA network you linked to, lacks Allen Wright's "50KHz pole". This is an additional resistor R3.18 in series with C2.

This paper gives the equations to calculate the values:
SJS Electroacoustics Home Page - Makers of Arcadia Valve Amplifiers

(Click on "Read it" and then "Phono Stage Design & Schematics".)

Regards,

Andy

andyr · 12th November 2011, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hacknet

hey guys,

i've been toying around with a couple phono stage simulations and i've been looking for a calculator that can help me churn out component values for the eq network.

be it a composite on or a split one. has anyone see any around?

thanks a million!!!

This paper gives the equations to calculate the values for a passive composite network:
SJS Electroacoustics Home Page - Makers of Arcadia Valve Amplifiers

(Click on "Read it" and then "Phono Stage Design & Schematics".)

Regards,

Andy

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hacknet diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sg	Riaa component calculator hey guys, i've been toying around with a couple phono stage simulations and i've been looking for a calculator that can help me churn out component values for the eq network. be it a composite on or a split one. has anyone see any around? thanks a million!!!

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11th April 2006, 04:36 PM	#3
hacknet diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sg	hey! thanks a million!!

12th April 2006, 08:28 AM	#4
AndrewT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Scottish Borders	Hi, the Harms' excel sheet is much easier to use than the optimal, since optimal is designed specifically for ultra low error and to show the results. I have posted my version with slightly tweaked values to see just how low the errors could be made and what error is permissible with component selection. Resistor accuracy will require a good DMM, but required cap accuracy is beyond my test equipment. But the display will let me see what errors will result from component spread.

14th April 2006, 07:18 AM	#5
hagtech diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hawaii	Try this: http://www.hagtech.com/equalization.html jh

12th November 2011, 03:42 PM	#6
tcqanh diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: HoChiMinh city	Hi all, I'm doing adjust my RIAA circuit in my pre tube phono. my circuit is like in this http://www.mh-audio.nl/CalculateRIAA.asp. with standard components based on that link was showed, I feel not satisfied on the bass. So I need a software or some can estimate the result in chart. Could any one help me ? thanks a lot.