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Old 5th April 2006, 12:14 AM   #1
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I have been intrigued by the formulas for DIY Vinyl cleaner. That is until I called my local chemical supplier. I was given the following pricing:

1 Gallon triple dionized distilled water $48 - $86
500ml Triton X114 wetting agent $59.95 (probably a 20 year supply)
1 quart Isopropol Alchohol Tech grade $17.95 (1 pint $9.95)

Are these prices typical? Are there substitutes?

This same supplier has dionized reverse osmosis distilled water for $12.95 per gallon. Is that good enough? I can afford the Isopropol, but can Ivory dishwashing soap be subtituted for the Triton X114?

Suddenly the premixed solutions don't look so expensive.

I'm in Phoenix Arizona if you know a better local supplier.

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Old 5th April 2006, 05:44 AM   #2
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Alcohol seems to work as a wetting agent, breaking the surface tension. I use a mix of alcohol and water, with a little detergent.
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Old 5th April 2006, 12:57 PM   #3
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Gallons, mil's, quarts, pints?

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Old 5th April 2006, 04:18 PM   #4
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Yeah I know if I were a true scientist I wouldn't know what a gallon was so here is an approximate translation so I do not politcally offend anyone:javascript:smilie('')
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4 liters (or litres) triple de-ionized distilled water $48 - $86
500ml Triton X114 wetting agent $59.95 (probably a 20 year supply)
1 liter (litre) Isopropol Alchohol Tech grade $17.95 (500ml $9.95)

I did check the distilled water we use for the steam iron and it is steam distilled, but not de-ionized let alone triple dionized. My wife the bio-chemist claims that de-ionizing will reduce static electricity transferred to the vinyl.

Is de-ionized distilled water critical or will regular steam distilled water work?
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Old 5th April 2006, 06:44 PM   #5
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5 Gallons De-Ionized water: $15.00 (approx 19 l)
1 Pint Tergitol 15-S-3: $20.50 (approx .5 l)
1 Pint Tergitol 15-S-9: $20.50 (approx .5 l)

Mix .05 l of each of the Tergitols with the water to make the same fluid that the Canadian Library uses (also safe on acetates). Use the leftover Tergitol to make about 181 more Litres of solution.

BTW, you may want to buy more of this water to use as a rinse. I see that the shop does sell it in 55 gallon drums.

Shops:
http://apps.webcreate.com/ecom/catal...roductID=17376
http://www.essentialwholesale.com/sh...exd.asp?id=961


Cody

PS - you might want to try to obtain samples of Tergitol from a supplier for free
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Old 5th April 2006, 07:23 PM   #6
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Cody,

Thanks for the info and the links. So the isopropol alchohol is not required?

Shipping on the 5 gallon de-ionized water is $26 so I'll see if I can find it locally. We have a lot of silicon fab plants here so I'm hoping that will make it more likely there is a producer in town.

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Lindsay
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Old 5th April 2006, 07:38 PM   #7
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I have had good results with 3 parts distilled H20 1 part 91% iso alcohol and a few drops of 7th Generation brand "free and clear" Natural dish soap on used records. I follow each washing with a carbon fiber brush before play. Finally,each record gets a new anti-static record sleeve.
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Old 5th April 2006, 09:54 PM   #8
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Yeah I know if I were a true scientist I wouldn't know what a gallon was so here is an approximate translation so I do not politcally offend
Don't forget US gallons are different to gallons in other parts of the world

Seriously, no offence.

BTW, my country went through the conversion in recent decades so many people here know both.
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Old 5th April 2006, 10:34 PM   #9
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I always forgot who's gallons are imperial gallons

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Old 5th April 2006, 10:38 PM   #10
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The US has just plain old regular gallons, nothing fancy.

Lindsay
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