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Old 18th August 2005, 02:55 PM   #1
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Hello,

Here's a reincarnation of a head amp I've made for a Ortophon MC-20 in the mid 70's.
At that time I've used BF200 RF transistors.

S/N RIAA equalized shall be better than 80dB and distortion at 1mV input is about 0.1%.

Note: Nowadays I've not rebuilt the circuit - just simulated it.
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Old 18th August 2005, 03:01 PM   #2
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Are you sure about this design? Shouldn't the transistors be in parallel?
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Old 18th August 2005, 04:38 PM   #3
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I'm sure...

Very unusual, but it works.
For the lowest noise with a low impedance source, one has to use a high emitter current and a transistor with a low bulk and parasitc resistences.

Parallel transistors are used exactly to lower these resistences, and any feedback resistor will increase noise.

Using a large die transitor will have the same effect as palleling smaller ones. A RF one is even better (low rbb).

The series connected transistors used as diodes are the load, their exponential V/I curve will compensate the exponential V/I Vbe curve, cancelling distortion (at least most of it).
This is not true for a high impedance source.
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Old 18th August 2005, 04:56 PM   #5
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Yes, as said low input impedance...
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Old 18th August 2005, 05:02 PM   #6
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I mentioned this circuit a few weeks ago as being recently published in Electronics World. I think you told me you have used it a long time before. The circuit is fascinating as it is a very rare one with really no feedback at all and it still has low distorsion. Do you remember as it sounded ? I would be interested to know the results of your simulation.
It should be good as a mike preamp too.

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Old 18th August 2005, 05:10 PM   #7
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hello, forr

Honest, after all these yrs, and taking in consideration the amps & speakers of the time, I wouldn't give any opinion on sound quality.
A friend I regarded as having very good ears liked the Ortofon trafo better
But then the input cap was an electrolytic, who knows.

Here's the disto curve:
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And here's the noise:
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Old 18th August 2005, 05:17 PM   #9
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If I understand the curve well, distorsion is better than 80 dB, I think, for 1 mV input.

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Old 18th August 2005, 10:26 PM   #10
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Yes, in the sims distortion is -87 dB, but since this is just a simulation and there's no feedback, I wanted to play safe - too much, perhaps...
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