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Old 4th September 2002, 02:39 AM   #21
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Default No Directionality Bias

Hi Peter, I have tried interconnects wired in either direction, and agree that one direction can sound better (different) than the other.
I found this non directional soloution to sound better than either.
Note my comment of better depth imaging - I ended up with clear sounds coming from miles behind the speakers, and sounds clearly from behind the listening position, and crowd sounds in the room and surrounding the listening position.
When I get a reel of phone wire and the time I will make a set of 12 pair speaker cables using non directional pairs method, and see what result.

Bernard, by definition, star quad means 4 wires interconnection, so 4 wires are used instead of 2 wires - I think the benefits of using non directional configured star quad using enamelled magnet wire to work very nicely.

Magnus, now you can make them sound nice too.

Jason, in my experiments (and others also) I have found wire to exhibit a subtle directional characteristic, despite many (ex spirts) around here saying that this is not possible.
When I asked a nuclear physicist friend about my observations, he replied that wire directional characteristic is to be expected.

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Old 4th September 2002, 02:46 AM   #22
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All conductors have mechanical direction
when being produced in the mill.
My poor ears however repeatedly fail
in finding the direction. I am worrying myself
and one day I need to drop by a hospital.
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jh6you, go to the hearing clinic first.
If you still can't hear it get a better audio system.

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Woops… I forgot to turning my audio system backside front.
I will try this first and then I might go to the hearing clinic.
And, I would consider your last recommendation.
Thanks

Please continue. I am intersted in the reading about the cable.
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Woops… I forgot to turning my audio system backside front.
I will try this first and then I might go to the hearing clinic.
Why not use speakers as your source and and connect CD player or turntable to the amps output. You might be surprised with the results.
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Old 4th September 2002, 06:51 AM   #28
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Hoo…I just managed to stop my laughing. You! Naughty man.

I use the interconnects made of two 0.4mm-dia silver-coated copper lines, Teflon-insulated and twisted. Length is 1.5m from the sources to the passive attenuator and 0.35m from the attenuator to my Zen V2. I like these when listening to Classic music.

From time to time, I replace them with the same interconnects as swede’s. This case is for Rock, Jazz, and Pop.

I gave my friends all other lidikillously nice and expensive interconnects, as gifts.

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Sorry...not of 0.4mm-dia, but of 0.6mm-dia (single core).

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Default You might be surprised with the results....

Peter, I have thought about but not yet tried the experiment of connecting an amplifier and driving into a power amp output terminal and connecting a high gain amp/speaker/cro to the power amplifier input terminal and see if there is any signal present (ie - any coupling from the amp output back to it's own input) - I suspect that this is likely and may help to account for some system cable dependencies, due to coupling of speaker back emf signals all the way back to the source component line level output stage.
Have you tried this ?

jh6you, Magnus specifies Belden cable - have you tried different cables ?.
Also different insulation on your silver plated copper 0.6mm strands ?
Ime you'll get different sounds due to different dielectrics.
Wire direction is an additional subtle factor ime.

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