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Old 1st April 2005, 07:53 AM   #1
Lbow is offline Lbow  United States
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Question Nakamichi 1000ZXL Problems

I'm having some problems with my cassette deck and I was wondering if it's something that I can fix or if it's out of reach without the right equipment.

When I go into the auto calibration mode the auto azimuth alignment unit seems to run out of its limits and starts to click.

From what I can see, the the auto azimuth alignment unit has its own motor to swing the "pendulum" through its range until it senses perfect azimuth.

I can only guess that the motor is capable of reversing? It seems as though my unit is wanting to go in only one direction until it runs out of its limits.

Anyone willing to take a stab at it?

I'd appreciate any help. I was told if I decide to send it in for repair, I was to ship it to Electronics Service Labs.

Thanks

John

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Old 13th June 2005, 05:50 PM   #2
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Well, a second try ...
I`ve written a long explanation of how the azimuth adjustment system works but somehow I`ve lost it. So a short version now.
I think the failure is in the auto azimuth motor driver. This is a bidirectional motor and it needs (+) for the one direction and (+) for the other. The driver decides this reading the potentiometer which is in the black box to know where the position is and also it takes signals from the phase comparator. This is a loop which stops when the azimuth is correct and there is now phase difference. So, there are 2 matched, complimentary transistors there. 2SD471 and 2SB564, I think the originals that Nakamichi used are from NEC. One of them is bad. Check them and replace them if required. These 2 are a bit hard to find but not impossible.
By the way the Dragon has them also for its NAAC. So, this is a 50 Cent job, do this. Good luck. Best regards ...
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Old 13th June 2005, 06:02 PM   #3
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netwalker,

Since you seem to be well expierienced with NAACs, maybe you could advise me on my machine.

Whenever Play is pressed (in record mode including) the meter display are always at max without regards for pot or input settings. They go off only in stanby (Stop).
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Old 14th June 2005, 08:28 PM   #4
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Well, the Nakamichi 1000ZXL is a very complex machine. It is hard to say where the problem really is. I have a service manual only for the 1000ZXL Limited Edition which doesn`t contain any adjustment procedures. If I were you I, would start with the adjustment procedures first. May be you are lucky and your deck is just out of tunung and you don`t need further to troubleshoot. Generally spoken the level meter consists of two chips which control the beginning and the end part of the LED display. The 1000ZXL Limited has two TC4022BP from Toshiba, The Dragon has two (TC5081P also from Toshiba). The 1000ZXL Limited has 2 boards which control the LED display. FL Indicator P.C.B. "A" and FL Indicator P.C.B. "B". The two chips are on the "B" board, on the "A" board there is a pot to take an adjustment. Generally there is an adjustment procedure for the LED display. May be if I take a look at your service manual I can tell you whether and if there to adjust. Iif you can not adjust this then you have to make a little troubleshooting. Indeed, the 1000ZXL is a very complex mashine and you have a very nice one as I see. Service manual is a must. The troubleshooting if required then includes checking the input voltages, signals, and may be some components. Perhaps it is also important to know when and how all this with the LED display began.
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Old 14th June 2005, 08:28 PM   #5
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To Lbow Sorry, I was too fast with the keyboard ...
The azimuth motor needs (+), positive voltage for the one direction and (-) negative voltage for the other direction ...
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Old 16th June 2005, 01:03 AM   #6
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Perhaps it is also important to know when and how all this with the LED display began.
Thanks for advice.

The unit worked fine originally, then I put it to rest for 3 years; when I first switched it on after that period, something blew in a PS and I had to replace one transistor (in PS). That brought the unit back to normal operation again, except for a meter, which always stays at maximum, whenever inb play mode.

I have service manual with adjusting procedure/troubleshooting guide, but I don't recall it says anything about that type of behaviour. The unit is indeed very complex, and I was postponing that repair for more than a year now.
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Old 16th June 2005, 02:33 AM   #7
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Hi again,
Hm ... this makes the things somewhat different. Again, I`m looking at a 1000ZXL Limited Edition Service Manual and shematic may differ somewhat ... Nevertheless i would think a little bit in order to help you.
Well, it seems that when something blew in the power supply not only this transistor was blown but also some other part. You`ll have to make a check.

As I told you in the previous mail, the led display consists of two boards. The second one "FL Indicator P.C.B. B" is directly connected to the "Power Supply P.C.B"through the connector "CN-37" wich has 5 pins:

1. AC
2. AC
3. GND
4. -39V
5. +5V

Pin 1. and 2. (AC) are going directly to the "Fuse P.C.B." and are fused with F404 and F405 (both are 1A 250V). So, check these two fuses first. Be aware of the safety precautions. If the fuses are blown replace them only with the specified ones.

So Pin 3. is ground, check that too and also check the voltages of Pin 4. and 5.

If the fuses are ok, chesk the voltages at these pins and the ground. If the voltages and the ground are ok and the display is still weird, the problem is somewhere on the one of the both display boards. Or on both. Then you will have to check the voltages on the boards. Do this and then we should know more.
Good luck. And don`t forget ... Safety first.
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Old 16th June 2005, 03:37 AM   #8
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Hi,

The fuses are fine and voltages check out fine too. AC between pin 1 & 2 is 5.2V , pin 4 has slighty lower voltage ( -37.7V).
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Old 17th June 2005, 02:29 AM   #9
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Well, the problem is tricky. Please tell me wich transistor exactly was blown, its type and tell me with what type did you replace it ... What else did you do to the deck? Putting apart, cleaning, adjustments. It is important also to know if this is the only malfunction you have. Did you check every other function and found to be ok? Before we go further on check these things first:

1. By the way, I had the same effect on my dragon ... I dismantled it in order to clean it and to replace some parts. On putting it together i have either forgotten to put a ribbon cable on its place or i swapped 2 of them. The flat ribbon cables have small paper etikettes saying in which connector on the board the cable goes in. They fall easilly off and you can do a failure. So if you took the deck apart for cleaning ot adjustments or to change a part verify this even if it sounds a little funny.

2. If the deck was on a shelter for three years or so and after this you made it on and something blew, then maybe there was dust in it, moisture, or something fell in. I would make aditional visual inspection verifying that nothing is shorted. Accumulated dust may be conductive. If there is a dust or some other garbadge dust it off using a can of compressed air. As far as I know the deck has also a battery to support the memory of the computer of the deck. Is it good ? If you leave a battery for a long time it gets bad and acid comes out making a small (or a big) mess on a board. So check that too.

3. Did you check your ground as well, not only the voltages ?
Check for contact between ground pins and chassis. What about the other voltages on the two LED boards, not only the pins you`ve told me about check where you can.

4. Changing electrical parts means that you have to make an electrical adjustment. Because the new part or a replacement one has different characteristics. So, there must be an adjustment procedure for the level of the LED display. On the dragon you play a signal, 0db and adjust the level meter to this level. There are also reference voltages. Check in your service manual if there is such a procedure and check if the LED display reacts at all to this adjustment. Perhaps the LED display is ok but it is too sensitive and the movement is beyond the scope of it. Check for reaction using the LED adjustment procedure. On the first LED PCB there is a tweaker VR601 tell me what it is used for. I think this is a gain or clock adjustment, if you find the procedure for this try it. See if the LED display reacts.

5. Check also the voltages on the LED boards. The shematic says where and what voltage is to be checked.

6. After all the first LED board takes the stereo signals to display them ... check if the signal is comming in as it should come. This way you would know if the LED is functioning correctly and the incoming signal is wrong or the signal is ok and the LED is wrong.

7. Check for Q209, Q109 on the second board. There goes the stereo signal first through.

Generally I think of three possibilities:
1. Something is shorted somewhere
2. Something is blown
3. Out of alignment. Too much gain or adjusted too sensible. (most likely)

Well that are my suggestions for now. It is a little hard to find the problem this way but I think we should cope with it. At least I would`t give it up that easy.

I`m staying tuned to know what`s going on.
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Old 18th June 2005, 01:17 AM   #10
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Peter,
Your problem is bad relay contacts. Clean the card connectors whle you are in there. Use the gas filled relays for replacement if you can find them.

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