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Old 11th November 2004, 02:14 PM   #1
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Default Pro-Ject 1 Xpression help

I have just brought an Project 1 Xpression home and am not sure everything is well.

My system is Quad 99 pre, Quad 99 power amp, Tannoy Berkerley Loudspeakers(15inch Dual Concentrics), Quad 99cdp and the Pro-Ject turntable which come ready 'loaded' with an Ortofon OMP 10.

My problem is that the sound is overly warm maybe even lush and bass heavy. There is next to no treble bite. I have tried lowering the bass right off and using the Quad 'tilt' to bring up the treble and it is almost there but not quite

I have checked all the cables and connection etc.

The cartridge is not the best I know but I am stumped. Any ideas very welcome
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Old 12th November 2004, 12:58 PM   #2
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I'm no turntable wizzard, but:
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the Pro-Ject turntable which come ready 'loaded' with an Ortofon OMP 10.
Are you sure it is mounted correctly? VTA, weight etc??
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Old 12th November 2004, 01:12 PM   #3
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Hi, you could try adjust ing the VTA if it is possible to add some packing under the arm mounting.
Although the best starting point is with the cartridge mounting level with the record, raising the arm a little will brighten up the sound. As well as that, check all of the geometry carefully as it may not be correct. If you don't have the sttings. measure the exact distance from the point where the arm pivots to the turntable spindle centre and it can be worked out from that.

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Old 12th November 2004, 06:04 PM   #4
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JRKO,

Project Xpression:

Check Tone arm wires to cartridge...
White: Left channel positive L+
Red: Right Channel pos. R+
Green: Right channel return R-
Blue: Left channel return L-

And the
Is the VTA correct, the arm must be parallel to the vinyl when looking
from the right side and your eyesight level with the vinyl surface...

Is the azimut correct, the cartridge must be parallel to the vinyl when you look in front on the arm.... The needle must be vertical to the groove,
use a magnifying glass.

I have a Ortophon OMP 30 on my Thorens TD145 and it gives a great sound.
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You sure the Quad 99 is in MM mode, and not in MC?

I remember the Ortofon OM series as rather thin and lean, definitely not warm.

BTW: the Quads deserve a better turntable, or at least a much better cartridge.
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Old 15th November 2004, 06:58 AM   #6
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Thanks guys

The headshell looks to be slightly lower than the pivot end of the arm so I can adjust that.

I took the deck back to where I purchased it and the chap there had a fiddle with it and it sounded fine. I am just missing all the treble bite I know you can get with vinyl.
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Old 15th November 2004, 01:56 PM   #7
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Hi JRKO


It's probably a silly suggestion but any chance your phonostage is set to MC? You'll effectively lose the entire top end with the Ortofon.
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Old 15th November 2004, 05:09 PM   #8
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Default WWWHHHHHOOOOOOPPPPPPIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!



After carfully changing the azimuth(? I think thats what its called) I checked the phono stage.......

Because I buoght it second hand I did not receive the instruction manual and phoned Quad service dept. The chap there got the mm/mc switching the WRONG way round.

The display flicks between PH & PL and he gave me the wrong one as MM.

Now it sounds great!

A million thanks....now I'm off to play with my records!!!
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Old 15th November 2004, 06:01 PM   #9
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JRKO,

Glad you found the problem, could you please give us some details
about the turntable and arm ; and what about the sound !!!

I am very interested in the Project Xpression with carbon arm
and never had time to get a listening session...

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Old 15th November 2004, 06:15 PM   #10
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The Xpression (now) sounds great!!!!

Highs.........listening to some classics..mmmmmm
Lows.........Played some '92 drum'n'bass (everything shakes!)
rhythm.......Louis Armstrong Chicago concert 1956 swingin'!!!

If vinyl is not your main source its great as it does not cost too much and will do your records justice.

If vinyl is a major source then its also great because the arm can take a cartridge that costs as much as the deck and then some. I think someone even put an expensive Kontrapukt or Benz on one!!!

As the plinth is pretty basic I was thinking of getting a stone mason to cut me an exact match or maybe getting a concrete slab and cutting one myself.

A better motor shouldn't be to difficult and getting a better bearing is not a problem as far as I can tell from other threads.

And then there is this site which is a real bonus www.diversevinyl.com 180gsm repressings and new release for good prices....
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