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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: New Zealand
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Just wanting to cheaply/quickly/easily boost the pulling power of my tuner. Are those cheap RF amplifiers much use to boost RF reception any good?
Also, anyone know of a useful link for a DIY FM antenna and other ways to optimise reception ? (I'm not keen to modify the circuitry inside my tuner - the tuner's good, just the location is in a RF hole. Cheers. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Sweden
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A booster or antenna amplifier only helps if it has lower noise figure than the input stage in your radio. No booster beats a good antenna.
I found a link that looks good: http://radio.meteor.free.fr/us/yagi_fm.html
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diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: U.K.
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Jax is correct when the booster amp is fitted at near the tuner.
If the booster is fitted at the mast-head (next to the antenna), there will be an improvement. This is because the loss of the downlead is subtracted from the noise. There is also sometimes an improvement in VSWR (matching). At 100MHz 'ish the improvement will only be significant if the downlead is poor quality or very long. You have got a roof antenna.... ?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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I've always been under the impression that an amplifier cannot
help a good good tuner except for exceptionally bad reception conditions and a very good antenna is still needed, and a mast head amplifier is the way to do it. Or the device guaranteed to make other FM enthusiasts green with envy, the remote mast head rotator. My one book dealing with antenna's mentions circular polarisation, and has a design for a freestanding vertical end fed half wave antenna, its the most ergonomic indoor design I've seen. (Basically a base with two 1/2" round vertical sections, one 7.5ft long the other 2.5ft long) What antenna are you using at the moment ? sreten.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Sweden
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Yes, that is correct but a good antenna still beats a masthead booster ![]() It does not hurt to have both provided the quality of the masthead amp is good enough, not that wideband junk.
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diyAudio Member
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Here's a link to an easy to make FM antenna. I want to try this sometime but have not had the time.
http://zbconline.com/antenna.html |
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Hi, the best booster is a multi-element antenna. The more elements the better. In the UK is a firm advertising in a UK Hifi journal that has a nice one. Sorry don't recall the names.
Use double shielded coax cable from antenna to receiver, as short as posssible in length to minimise losses.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: New Zealand
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Hi,
Thanks for your input everyone who posted a reply. Much appreciated and exactly the info I was after. I think I'll have a go at building the antenna from the link that Scott Wurcer posted. Looks simple and cheap. I'll post another reply to let you know how well it works once I've got around to building it. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Los Angeles
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hello,
I have had excellent results with J-pole antenna's. check out the following sites. http://latham.dropbear.id.au/antenna/ http://www.mycal.net/old/projects/mpr/jpole.htm the following site contains an excellent optimization program for your favorite radio frequency. http://www.sedan.org/jpol.htm and some pictures to see how a commercial application is done. http://users.cis.net/kingpop/J-pole-pix.htm Id go out to the roof to take a picture of the one I made, but it's raining in L.A. right now! good luck carl |
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diyAudio Member
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I've just built and installed a jpole as per one of the
examples, with a coax feed. My ham radio neighbor loaned me his swr analyzer so I may be able to see if it's even remotely tuned correctly for the FM band. I cut the elements a little long so I'll have some room for tweaking. I'm hoping the bandwidth is reasonably wide; I used 1/2" copper tubing (gave me some practice soldering copper tubing, too), though I might consider 3/4" on the next one. Relatively easy project, and the results seem good for local reception on the stations I wanted. Lots of multipath in my location and a few stations seem to suffer as a result with this presumably omnidirectional antenna, but thankfully not the ones I wanted. My first RF project in many years! Photos may eventually follow (I wanna digital camera but can't afford a Canon Rebel) --Damon |
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