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Old 20th September 2013, 12:07 AM   #11
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Did you everfind springs that were compatable? I am looking for some too- would love to know where to get some? What about that little ring that they connect to? Are they available too?
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Old 20th September 2013, 02:53 AM   #12
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Yes, I did find compatible springs but had to go through every spring in a bin I found at an old mom and pop hardware store that was closing up.
"A problem left to itself dries up or goes rotten. But fertilize a problem with a solution--you'll hatch out dozens." (N.F.Simpson)
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Old 4th February 2015, 07:17 PM   #13
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Hi guys, I found this turntable at the back of my uncle's garage which has been sitting there 20 years in a rather sad state..

- On stripping it down notice the springs are all of different tensions ! Does anyone know where to get new ones from ?

- Also I notice that others have done away with the power switch, Any reason for this ?

- The arm mount is for an SME but the only arm I could find in his garage was a Rega / Moth 250.

- Lastly what sort of cartridge price range should I look at for this turntable / amr combo ?

Any thoughts to help me on my way much appreciated
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Old 4th February 2015, 07:53 PM   #14
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Try UK Springs Manufacturer, Supplier and Stockists, Associated Spring
Huge range of springs, simple online selector.
10 minimum order.
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Old 4th February 2015, 08:02 PM   #15
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Ohh, many thank for that
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Old 4th February 2015, 10:28 PM   #16
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Some applied logic (sorry) will indicate indeed the springs
are of different tensions, they have to be for the different
loads that they support. Pair them up then arrange.

However they are too stiff laterally for the subchassis
rotating around the platter, and a later version used
a large central coil around the main bearing and much
reduced (but still different) stiffness spring pairs.

YMMV about the cartridge.

Is a bargain and will get you going, or this :

Is a great long term buy for a well fettled turntable.
Top quality and the tip will last utterly ages, e.g. >
3 times as long and will always be better than this :
Which is a good match for the arm and turntable,
and the best budget nude tipped elliptical.

rgds, sreten.

Note : to get it to really sing requires a lot of non-obvious fettling,
like most suspended turntables, the devil is in the details.
The details are not expensive, they are sympathetic empathy.

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Old 4th February 2015, 11:32 PM   #17
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Thanks Sreten, handy to know about the springs, thought odd some were shorter than others, need to work out where they go. Yes mine has the big central spring.

The arm has no wires in it, these people seem pretty expensive:

Rega Tonearm Modifications & Rewire

Cartridge fancy a Goldring, as they use to be made down the road from me when I was a kid and remember drooling over the Lenco turntables in the showroom window.

Also need a phono amp...
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Old 5th February 2015, 12:33 AM   #18
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Good you have the central spring relatively.

The shortest spring pair will go behind the arm.

No arm wires ? That complicates things a lot.
(You can't use the old wires to pull the new
wires through the 90 degree bend, grim ...)
Its gets very complicated.

If you fancy a Goldring be prepared to pay loads
more money for no better than my suggestions.

What amplifier do you have ?

rgds, sreten.

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Old 5th February 2015, 11:11 AM   #19
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The ones with the highest tension are at the front, the other pair are rather weak. One of the arm springs is broken.

Ya no wires in the arm a real pain, that link I gave earlier they do it for you, but seems their wires are in two parts, internal and external... and pay twice ?

Rega Tonearm Modifications & Rewire

Where as wires on ebay are one piece:

Rega Cardas rewire kit for RB250, 300 tonearm etc. | eBay

My amp is a heavily modded Yaqin MC10L
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Old 8th January 2016, 05:13 PM   #20
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Sounds good to me, as got a couple of springs missing. Does anyone have any pics of this mod by any chance ?

Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
I did set one of these up 'back in the day' when it was only a couple of years old and would generally agree with the previous owners assessment! However, it was easy enough to get the chassis centered, so I imagine one or more of the springs has stretched. Always a bit twitchy even when nearly new. I'd put a hole through three 'soft shoe' style sorbothane feet and use those in place of the springs with the spring bolts used as guides. Did this with an early Systemdek relatively recently to good effect. This may require some simple fabrication to give the sorbothane something to sit on.
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