DIY Phono Pre- Boozehound OR Elliot P06?

garpt · 28th January 2013, 01:07 AM

Hi all,
Been here (this forum) before when I need a more Pro "take" on things.
Need a project for these middle-aged hands & eyes as a good stress relief project. It's been a while but I'm a moderate skill level. So, which of these two would one prefer? Looking for personal experience, or comments on design pluses or minuses of each.
*BOOZEHOUND: J Fet design, Russian NOS oil/ paper caps.

* ELLIOT P06: Dual Op-Amp design.

The Boozehound is $79, including PCB and all parts, no P.S., Case, connectors, etc.

The Elliot P06: $30 shipped for PCB Only (w/ instruction)

Thanks for any input at all.
-Gary

atupi · 28th January 2013, 09:45 AM

Boozehound can sound a bit better but is very picky about power supply quality (filtering, noise). Also results in a bulky pcb than Eliott P06
Overall i would recommend Eliott P06 (Easier to build, sounds really good small pcb)

Adrian

fap · 28th January 2013, 10:13 AM

G'day all, I recommend the ESP P06. There is a nice review here: Vinyl Asylum: REVIEW: Elliott Sound Products. ESP P06 phono stage. Phono Preamp by fscerri Regards, Felix.

jackinnj · 11:46 AM

The Boozehound is going to have very poor PSRR -- almost every power supply issue will manifest itself on the output, so use batteries and don't be stingy. If you are going to build the Eliott P-06 definitely break for the OPA2134 op amps.

Both these pre's can be built on perf board, or manhattan style on blank pcb material.

You might want to take a look at Denis Colin's design from AudioXpress in 2007 -- more complicated than you require, but some good insights: http://www.audioamateur.com/media/aa/colin2774.pdf

Kjeldsen · 28th January 2013, 12:00 PM

I have build this one. Very easy and cheap.

RJM Audio - Printed Circuit Boards

The Stereo VSPS

Missing some hardware, so haven't heard it yet, but very good reviews.

garpt · 28th January 2013, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atupi

Boozehound can sound a bit better but is very picky about power supply quality (filtering, noise). Also results in a bulky pcb than Eliott P06
Overall i would recommend Eliott P06 (Easier to build, sounds really good small pcb)

Adrian

Thanks for the input Adrian,
I currently have a top quality PS (Hospital Grade, regulated linear, 6Amp continuous- a bit more then necessary, but....)
Only thing, it is dual rail +/-15VDC, about 16.5 no load. Is this adaptable? It should have the filtering necessary to be very quiet. By sound a "bit better", do you mean it cabn sound better then the Elliot p06?
Thanks.
Gary

garpt · 28th January 2013, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kjeldsen

I have build this one. Very easy and cheap.

RJM Audio - Printed Circuit Boards

The Stereo VSPS

Missing some hardware, so haven't heard it yet, but very good reviews.

I've read about the VSPS, probably should put that in the short list with the other two. Performance wise, I've heard it compared to the Cambridge 640, which I currently have.

audiorasp · 29th January 2013, 03:45 AM

Another to consider, OPENAMP1

Preamplifier for MM cartridge

garpt · 29th January 2013, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audiorasp

Another to consider, OPENAMP1

Preamplifier for MM cartridge

Looks Great! Wonderful specs...Great layout. Is there a pre-cut PCB for this project?
That is a necessity with my skill level.

Thanks.
-GT

audiorasp · 29th January 2013, 05:27 AM

Yes, there are pcbs available.

On Pavel's homepage click on pricelist:

Pavel Macura audiopage

28th January 2013, 01:07 AM	#1
garpt diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2012	DIY Phono Pre- Boozehound OR Elliot P06? Hi all, Been here (this forum) before when I need a more Pro "take" on things. Need a project for these middle-aged hands & eyes as a good stress relief project. It's been a while but I'm a moderate skill level. So, which of these two would one prefer? Looking for personal experience, or comments on design pluses or minuses of each. BOOZEHOUND: J Fet design, Russian NOS oil/ paper caps. ELLIOT P06: Dual Op-Amp design. The Boozehound is $79, including PCB and all parts, no P.S., Case, connectors, etc. The Elliot P06: $30 shipped for PCB Only (w/ instruction) Thanks for any input at all. -Gary

28th January 2013, 09:45 AM	#2
atupi diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bucharest	Boozehound can sound a bit better but is very picky about power supply quality (filtering, noise). Also results in a bulky pcb than Eliott P06 Overall i would recommend Eliott P06 (Easier to build, sounds really good small pcb) Adrian __________________ Rega RP-1/Simplistic RIAA by Salas/ DCB1 clone/ MyRef Fremen Edition/ XTZ 99.26 MkII speakers

28th January 2013, 11:38 AM	#4
jackinnj diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Llanddewi Brefi, NJ	The Boozehound is going to have very poor PSRR -- almost every power supply issue will manifest itself on the output, so use batteries and don't be stingy. If you are going to build the Eliott P-06 definitely break for the OPA2134 op amps. Both these pre's can be built on perf board, or manhattan style on blank pcb material. You might want to take a look at Denis Colin's design from AudioXpress in 2007 -- more complicated than you require, but some good insights: http://www.audioamateur.com/media/aa/colin2774.pdf Last edited by jackinnj; 28th January 2013 at 11:46 AM.

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28th January 2013, 10:13 AM	#3
fap diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Queensland.	G'day all, I recommend the ESP P06. There is a nice review here: Vinyl Asylum: REVIEW: Elliott Sound Products. ESP P06 phono stage. Phono Preamp by fscerri Regards, Felix.

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Kjeldsen diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Randers, Denmark	I have build this one. Very easy and cheap. RJM Audio - Printed Circuit Boards The Stereo VSPS Missing some hardware, so haven't heard it yet, but very good reviews.

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audiorasp diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sacramento, CA	Another to consider, OPENAMP1 Preamplifier for MM cartridge

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audiorasp diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sacramento, CA	Yes, there are pcbs available. On Pavel's homepage click on pricelist: Pavel Macura audiopage

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