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Hi guys, i have just completed my pre-regulator using CLC, IEC filter and further CRC at the stage . I am getting 25.3 V at pre-regulator. It sounds much better than my previous simple pre-regulator- just caps- multiple in parallel. I recalled the simulation stated minimum voltage should be 25V but else where in the thread it stated 26V?. Any clarification?.
 
Hi guys, i have just completed my pre-regulator using CLC, IEC filter and further CRC at the stage . I am getting 25.3 V at pre-regulator. It sounds much better than my previous simple pre-regulator- just caps- multiple in parallel. I recalled the simulation stated minimum voltage should be 25V but else where in the thread it stated 26V?. Any clarification?.

As stated before 25V is the absolute minimum. Using the pre-regulator I would presume that you 25.3V is safe enough :) See also my earlier response below.

The 26V volt was mentioned by 'someone' :) saying, there is no audible improvement when the input voltage was raised above 26V (my estimate is that this was measured with the more 'conventional' power supply (just rectifiers and a pair of buffer electrolytes).

O.K. I am wrong 25Vdc is the minimum, 26Vdc gives a bit of headroom. See Post#155 and Mpp#6462 (sorry to have created some confusion, my only excuse is I do not have my notes here at this location :eek:). P.S. for the 25Vdc you need to check the PSU input voltage with an scope (to check for the minimum!).

These are the most important/relevant messages regarding PSU and Pre-Reg.
  1. Mpp #4375 PSU-pre-regulator.
  2. Mpp #4610 V2 Schemas UPS and Amp.
  3. Mpp #6506 CCS fine-tuning.
  4. Mpp #6462 PSU with my notes.
  5. Mpp #6809 Do not try to feed the CVS of the CCS of the shunt with a regulated power supply.
  6. Mpp #7127 More about transformer selection.
  7. Mpp #7635 Single and dual transformer wiring (also corrected drawing) (See also #7733).
  8. Mpp #7733 Grounding (PSU, RIAA and Player).
  9. Mpp #7810 35V PSU for the CroMagnon.
  10. Mpp #7830 The PSU explained.
  11. Mpp #8386 My resistor recommendation’s.
  12. My Paradise #56 PSU Noise.
  13. Masterpiece #951 That's not a PSRR test (it's a CIR test) :)
  14. PradiseBuilders #13 Schema's and assembly guide.
  15. PradiseBuilders #155 Vdc input voltage minimum simulated.
  16. PradiseBuilders #970 PSU oscillates; posible solutions?
  17. PradiseBuilders #983 Compensating the PSU for oscillations.
  18. PradiseBuilders #1173 Fixing oscillations (up to #1182).
  19. PradiseBuilders #1322 Fuse :).
  20. PradiseBuilders #1387 Updated Paradise R3 assembly guide (Also German).
  21. PradiseBuilders #1403 Capacitors bad vs good.
  22. PradiseBuilders #1593 PSU Power Transistor selection.
  23. PradiseBuilders #1644 PSU Output Impedance.
  24. PradiseBuilders #1680 PSU Power Supply Suppression Ratio(PSSR).
  25. PradiseBuilders #1772 NJF selection for the PSU.
  26. PradiseBuilders #1887 Empirical NJF Rgs determination.
  27. PradiseBuilders #2127 More about the PSU fets (J113's etc).
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Hi guys, i have just completed my pre-regulator using CLC, IEC filter and further CRC at the stage . I am getting 25.3 V at pre-regulator. It sounds much better than my previous simple pre-regulator- just caps- multiple in parallel. I recalled the simulation stated minimum voltage should be 25V but else where in the thread it stated 26V?. Any clarification?.



Hi quan
What sort of once ( load resistance R1 / R3 ) you have build in ?
I have in my pre-regulator 10 Ohm and get 26,2 Volt.
In my mind it sounds better :D
Take care Werner
 
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Folks

First of all, a correction about my temperatur mesurements before.
I have done that again with an fresh calibrated gage and probe.
After 4 houres operated it's only 42 C, by 22 C room temp.
Sorry for the wrong nummber before.




Next thing what I have done, I have bridged the Neumann resistors.
Bachground fore that,
I was not so 100% happy (soundwise) with some records, fore example:

Alison Krauss/ New Favorit
Karin Bremnes/ Norwegian Moon
Sting/ Symphonicites
Nora Jones/ Littel broben Hearts

Special the voices are little bit to present and a little bit to twangy or harsh, you know what I mine.
This records are sounds better with my Tube Phone MK4.
A couple of days ago I thought mybe the Neumann R. is the reason.
Now I am 100% sure (fore me personal) after long trails with and without Resistor, that it is much better without. Not only voices warmer and natural sound,the whole spatial sound wins :D
Let me know when somewhere has similar experience made.

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Take care Werner