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Old 23rd April 2012, 12:01 AM   #11
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MM cartridges are often about 1k. You can check specs on the ortofon website for example.
The pre amp oscillates at about 10k input resistance.
If 1k is typical of a cartridge then there should be no problem.

I wouldnt expect it to perform very well with a floating input.
There is clearly some sort of coupling back into the input as I can see 400mV of noise on the input. If I short the input it stops oscilating.

I had a look at the layout and there is an opamp out track and input track running in parallel. It was just laid out to be as tight as possible.
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Here is the layout.
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Yeah the layout’s buggered, especially the ground. With a external transducer the (cartridge) ground needs to be close to the first stage inputs and starred to a common point with the output ground and supply bypass ground. It would’ve helped if the op-amps were rotated 90 degrees to make it easier to get a direct path from the cartridge to the inputs as needed. Unfortunately at this point you’re going to be stuck applying band-aids to get it to work oscillation free.
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RIAA pre amp oscilates.
Yeah, got to agree with KAOS - you'd be better starting over with a little guidance from the crowd.
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Yeah the layout’s buggered, especially the ground. With a external transducer the (cartridge) ground needs to be close to the first stage inputs and starred to a common point with the output ground and supply bypass ground. It would’ve helped if the op-amps were rotated 90 degrees to make it easier to get a direct path from the cartridge to the inputs as needed. Unfortunately at this point you’re going to be stuck applying band-aids to get it to work oscillation free.
I am greatly embarassed to admit I left out a very small capacitor by accident in the feedback loop, the 4n7.
The circuit works a treat now with NE5532 and tl072.
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