As a marketing guy . . .

Bonsai · 31st January 2012, 08:30 AM

. . . I'd say we have a rebound!

barrymagrec · 31st January 2012, 08:33 AM

Interesting - how do you think the numbers compare with CDs and (legal) download?

Bonsai · 31st January 2012, 12:18 PM

Very small! But, the trend is interesting especially since the mainstream tech companies view vinyl as an archaic and dead technology.

homemodder · 31st January 2012, 12:48 PM

Which companies are cutting these new LPs or is it just the fact that old remaining ones are trading hands ??

I think what is most damaging the CD is the recording studios persistence on compression, modern CDs are sounding worse by every re-release they make. Just last week I purchased a new CD made in 2009. This CD was first released in 1994. I have a 1994 copy but which is now a little damaged due to automotive use and planned to replace the old one but first I compaired the two. The new released version sounds like distortion with a beat compaired to the 1994 one.

Bonsai · 31st January 2012, 01:16 PM

Good points homemodder.

The figures shown are for new album sales I believe.

MiiB · 31st January 2012, 01:18 PM

i have a new released CD version of the wall, which is by all means a 1000 times better than the first issue...

michael

homemodder · 31st January 2012, 01:45 PM

Some of the re mastered CDs are in fact better, other examples are the Dire Straits albums, but most are far worse off, especially when it comes to rock or pop music. The new released versions of Billy Idol CDs are so bad I donated them to our public library, Ill keep the LP versions I purchased back in the 80s although the wear and tear is showing.

Here is an intereting link concerning this problem.
What Happened To Dynamic Range?

SY · 31st January 2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrymagrec

Interesting - how do you think the numbers compare with CDs and (legal) download?

Minuscule. Billboard lists 2011 CD sales at 330 million units. Digital album sales were 103 million units. And digital single song sales were about 1.3 billion units.

Bonsai · 31st January 2012, 02:24 PM

Yep, buried in the noise I am afraid.

indianajo · 02:41 PM

Hooray! I bought an LP last year. CDs are capable of decent sound, but you have to buy classical music to ensure the signal range is more than 20 db. And MP3 is the cassette tape of the Oh-Oh's. Music for the tonedeaf. No wonder modern products are so bad, residents of LA spend 4 hours a day in their cars and the rest of the time texting on their cell phones. Actually nobody important lives in LA now: they work there and live 70 miles away. I live 1 mile from the courthouse in my little burg.

31st January 2012, 08:30 AM	#1
Bonsai diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taipei, Taiwan	As a marketing guy . . . . . . I'd say we have a rebound! Vinyl Sales by year.png __________________ bonsai http://www.hifisonix.com/

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Bonsai diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taipei, Taiwan	Very small! But, the trend is interesting especially since the mainstream tech companies view vinyl as an archaic and dead technology. __________________ bonsai http://www.hifisonix.com/

31st January 2012, 01:16 PM	#5
Bonsai diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taipei, Taiwan	Good points homemodder. The figures shown are for new album sales I believe. __________________ bonsai http://www.hifisonix.com/

31st January 2012, 01:18 PM	#6
MiiB diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark	i have a new released CD version of the wall, which is by all means a 1000 times better than the first issue... michael __________________ http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-...esen/a/a55/544

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31st January 2012, 08:33 AM	#2
barrymagrec diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2010	Interesting - how do you think the numbers compare with CDs and (legal) download?

31st January 2012, 12:48 PM	#4
homemodder diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	Which companies are cutting these new LPs or is it just the fact that old remaining ones are trading hands ?? I think what is most damaging the CD is the recording studios persistence on compression, modern CDs are sounding worse by every re-release they make. Just last week I purchased a new CD made in 2009. This CD was first released in 1994. I have a 1994 copy but which is now a little damaged due to automotive use and planned to replace the old one but first I compaired the two. The new released version sounds like distortion with a beat compaired to the 1994 one.

31st January 2012, 01:45 PM	#7
homemodder diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	Some of the re mastered CDs are in fact better, other examples are the Dire Straits albums, but most are far worse off, especially when it comes to rock or pop music. The new released versions of Billy Idol CDs are so bad I donated them to our public library, Ill keep the LP versions I purchased back in the 80s although the wear and tear is showing. Here is an intereting link concerning this problem. What Happened To Dynamic Range?

31st January 2012, 02:39 PM	#10
indianajo diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana USA	Hooray! I bought an LP last year. CDs are capable of decent sound, but you have to buy classical music to ensure the signal range is more than 20 db. And MP3 is the cassette tape of the Oh-Oh's. Music for the tonedeaf. No wonder modern products are so bad, residents of LA spend 4 hours a day in their cars and the rest of the time texting on their cell phones. Actually nobody important lives in LA now: they work there and live 70 miles away. I live 1 mile from the courthouse in my little burg. __________________ Dynakit ST70, ST120, PAS2,Hammond H182(2 ea),H112,A100,10-82TC,Peavey CS800S,SP2-XT's, T-300 HF Projs, Steinway console, Herald RA88a mixer, Wurlitzer 4500 Last edited by indianajo; 31st January 2012 at 02:41 PM.

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