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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Hi All,
I just bought Denon DP-7F for $25 from a very nice old lady and she gave me the whole LP Collection (Classical) (almost 100pcs LP). I tried over there and it play ok but when I played at home the sound is very little so I need to crank the volume to very high My questions are 1. Is there any thing wrong with this turntable? why the sound is so little. I have a Pre-amp but no Phono in (only Aux, CD, DVD etc) 2. How would I know when I need to change the cartridge? 3. Any suggestion best cartridge for this one? tks so much. Tony |
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It looks like you're simply missing the amplification and equalisation stage that is needed to correct for the RIAA standard.
You'll either need to make something yourself, or buy a ready made phono preamp.
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Tony, to play records you need a preamp with a phono input. The phono input is very sensitive because the signal from the cartridge is in the mV range; besides the signal from the cartridge must be equalized in the phone preamp, this is called the RIAA correction.
As you don't have that option you could look after a stand alone phono preamp, which you can connect between turntable and Aux input of your preamp. |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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A good US source for phono preamps seems to be Needle Doctor.
A vast range from budget to more sophisticated. |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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![]() Is all Turntable need Phono Preamp or just this denon DP-7F. Yes I remember when I tried with the old lady, she has OLD NAD with Phono in. |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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I believe this one made in 1998? |
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Almost all record players require a separate phono preamp. Debut I believe make a few that don't, but that's only because they've got the phono preamp already built in, so to answer your question, yes all record players require a phono preamp of some kind.
To contradict myself however, I do believe there was a system designed that could read the groove of a record with a laser and then convert that into an analogue signal. That player may not have needed a phono preamp although I don't know. Your first requirement is a phono preamp, no cartridge will make your system work as you're missing essential hardware.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Tony, I did the exact same thing, was so disappointed when I had everything set up and voila! no sound...very discouraging. I ran out to radio shack and bought a battery powered phono pre amp until I could buy a better one online! (also just to make sure everything worked!).
Maybe the old lady will give you her NAD/ best of luck and enjoy the music!! |
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Hi Tony - Your UMC-1 does not have a phono pre built into to it and thus - as per 5th element - you will need to provide an external phono preamp to boost the low level signal provided by the cartridge - something like this Needle Doctor 1-800-229-0644, Esoteric Sounds Rek-O-Kut Professional Phono Preamp MKII
Take the output of the preamp and plug it into the AUX input jacks of your UMC-1 To see if your cartridge or stylus needs replacing - 1st inspect the stylus with a magnifying glass and look for excessive or uneven wear. Examples of how to do this are on the web. Assuming a good stylus you can check the output by playing just about any record - but if you wanna be assured of a known good signal there are records that have test tones recorded onto them - these test records will also help with testing for proper alignment.
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