Depends on the audience, yesterday evening i attended the lavish 55th birthday celebration of an allergist-immunologist, resides 5 miles up north.
Picture bottom left : www.deweekkrant.nl/files/pdfarchief/HAL/20090408/HAL_HAL-1-65_090408_1.pdf
Huge party tent filled with stylish leisure furniture, two bands playing Piazolla and Hungary/Vienna gipsy acts, scallop amuses and 7-course catering.
Assembled flock of 50 heavy currency breathing MD's, horse training corral used for parking the Merc convertibles and Maseratis, get the picture ?
A gynaecologist talked about his art collection, even invited all the female specialists for a display at his home.
I commented that my association with art is a Japanese businessman with Yakuza connections, who comes home at night, watches his $75M sunflower painting and feels relieved that he still has all ears left.
(good thing most docs cross the booz line if they're not on weekend call, i did manage to invite 2 turkeys over for a SOTA chow demo of a loudmouth)
I'm sure SoundofVoid read it as a expression of respect.
Thanks for posting the details and pics, btw, awesome stuff.
Picture bottom left : www.deweekkrant.nl/files/pdfarchief/HAL/20090408/HAL_HAL-1-65_090408_1.pdf
Huge party tent filled with stylish leisure furniture, two bands playing Piazolla and Hungary/Vienna gipsy acts, scallop amuses and 7-course catering.
Assembled flock of 50 heavy currency breathing MD's, horse training corral used for parking the Merc convertibles and Maseratis, get the picture ?
A gynaecologist talked about his art collection, even invited all the female specialists for a display at his home.
I commented that my association with art is a Japanese businessman with Yakuza connections, who comes home at night, watches his $75M sunflower painting and feels relieved that he still has all ears left.
(good thing most docs cross the booz line if they're not on weekend call, i did manage to invite 2 turkeys over for a SOTA chow demo of a loudmouth)
I'm sure SoundofVoid read it as a expression of respect.
Thanks for posting the details and pics, btw, awesome stuff.
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EPISODE-5
So it was back to the CNC guys for a new round of calculations and metal cutting.
I designed two tall cylinders with an opening on top where the belt motor was going to be placed in.The spindle of the motor had to be on the same horizontal plane with the platter spindle so that the "pull" of the right belt would be equalized by the "pull" of the left one.For aesthetic reasons the cylinders were cut on the front to produce a flat "face" (with the engraved logo) and on the back for placing the cable connector and for securing the motor.Additional drilling had to be done from the base all the way up to the motor place to create a route for the cables.
The motors were cut from solid blocks of leaded steel.For each one to make the CNC
machine took 4 hours.They were weighted at 13 kilos each!
From the same metal we had cut the spikes that would support the turntable...
Next to be cut were the bronze parts...
To get an even more "silent" chassis i have asked for two bronze plates to place on each side of the aluminum.The rear one was rectangular and would cover all the back except from the place that the tracking mechanism would attach.
The front was round and would damp the area around the spindle...
Maximum thickness i could use was 1 cm because that was the free space under the hollow platter on the front and the rotating weights of the subplatter at the rear.
From bronze were also cut the extra weights that i was going to use on the platter and subplatter plus a solid rod for extra dampening of the tracking mechanism...
Last job for the CNC was the aluminum parts:the two faceplates of the PS box (1cm thick)
with appropriate engraving,the cups for the four spikes (out of super hard aluminum)
and the openings on the two side plates for the belts to pass through.
After a couple days i had all the parts in my hand and i was ready for test assembly...
See it in pictures...
So it was back to the CNC guys for a new round of calculations and metal cutting.
I designed two tall cylinders with an opening on top where the belt motor was going to be placed in.The spindle of the motor had to be on the same horizontal plane with the platter spindle so that the "pull" of the right belt would be equalized by the "pull" of the left one.For aesthetic reasons the cylinders were cut on the front to produce a flat "face" (with the engraved logo) and on the back for placing the cable connector and for securing the motor.Additional drilling had to be done from the base all the way up to the motor place to create a route for the cables.
The motors were cut from solid blocks of leaded steel.For each one to make the CNC
machine took 4 hours.They were weighted at 13 kilos each!
From the same metal we had cut the spikes that would support the turntable...
Next to be cut were the bronze parts...
To get an even more "silent" chassis i have asked for two bronze plates to place on each side of the aluminum.The rear one was rectangular and would cover all the back except from the place that the tracking mechanism would attach.
The front was round and would damp the area around the spindle...
Maximum thickness i could use was 1 cm because that was the free space under the hollow platter on the front and the rotating weights of the subplatter at the rear.
From bronze were also cut the extra weights that i was going to use on the platter and subplatter plus a solid rod for extra dampening of the tracking mechanism...
Last job for the CNC was the aluminum parts:the two faceplates of the PS box (1cm thick)
with appropriate engraving,the cups for the four spikes (out of super hard aluminum)
and the openings on the two side plates for the belts to pass through.
After a couple days i had all the parts in my hand and i was ready for test assembly...
See it in pictures...
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Kalimera.Ti kaneis?
No.An Aussie born of Anglo-celtic stock.However I do know a smattering of Greek having had many schoolmates of Greek parentage,and having worked with Aussie Greeks over the years.I love the Greeks and love listening to Greek being spoken.
'theophile' ---First of all,a small 't'(most important)because though GOD may be great,I am just an insignificant servant(the most insignificant).The small t keeps me in my place(hopefully).Friend of GOD,because how could I not feel affection for One who continues so good to me,even considering that I am unworthy of any positive consideration.
Maybe one day I will be worthy of the designation.Given my nature,I think that I will be asking for mercy rather than gathering the rewards for my virtue.
"theophile" :I started with a capital T because i thought that this was your actual name...as it is for many greeks...
Salas, yes i am a vet (if you look carefully besides the green surgery outfit you may also see a muzzle and hair grooming stuff).The whole project took place in my practice
where i have a lot of spare space.My working hours are so long i practically live there...
But available time is limited,so my projects take a long time to finish...
Salas, yes i am a vet (if you look carefully besides the green surgery outfit you may also see a muzzle and hair grooming stuff).The whole project took place in my practice
where i have a lot of spare space.My working hours are so long i practically live there...
But available time is limited,so my projects take a long time to finish...
Ah, Papa Tha-Salassinos make jokey again.
(nothing wrong with private use of official paper, even preferred overhere)
Most who pass this thread will not realise how exceptional this project is.
I had a Verdier TT copy made in the early 90s, easy peasy if you have the drawings, secondary parts can be bought, solid alu ordered by phone at tax-exempt wholesale prices, and daddio both owns and handles the 10 micron machining. (just don't mention the magno fruit bearing)
Maybe, if i rebuilt it to air suspension with balanced outputs it would at least equal my current TD turntable.
(my phono stage is the non-production omega balanced phono-pre, ordered by Mike Viglas before he hit the B&W button in '02, see Jeffry Widjaja's 'diy solid state preamp' thread for pics of the omega-3 balanced boards that go in 3d position)
The sonic improvement of rebuilding an LT-5V(C) to all-alloy should be obvious, kinda surprising there's not been a commercial SOTA vertical TT.
Quite an undertaking, humungous for someone not professionally in cad/cam and machining.
Very interested to hear about the upgrade of the linear tracking electronics.
(nothing wrong with private use of official paper, even preferred overhere)
Most who pass this thread will not realise how exceptional this project is.
I had a Verdier TT copy made in the early 90s, easy peasy if you have the drawings, secondary parts can be bought, solid alu ordered by phone at tax-exempt wholesale prices, and daddio both owns and handles the 10 micron machining. (just don't mention the magno fruit bearing)
Maybe, if i rebuilt it to air suspension with balanced outputs it would at least equal my current TD turntable.
(my phono stage is the non-production omega balanced phono-pre, ordered by Mike Viglas before he hit the B&W button in '02, see Jeffry Widjaja's 'diy solid state preamp' thread for pics of the omega-3 balanced boards that go in 3d position)
The sonic improvement of rebuilding an LT-5V(C) to all-alloy should be obvious, kinda surprising there's not been a commercial SOTA vertical TT.
Quite an undertaking, humungous for someone not professionally in cad/cam and machining.
Very interested to hear about the upgrade of the linear tracking electronics.
Maybe not as many as you think.This is diyaudio.com after-all.Many here would have had items custom fabricated for their system and know the pitfalls of even an apparently simple undertaking.
Having said that,this project stands-out to me as perhaps the most ambitious yet most stunning overhaul/modifications of ANY turntable that I have seen in over 30 years.It makes the effort put into Albert Porter's Panzerholz plinths look as simple as blowing bubble-gum(and that definitely is NOT the case).
I read this thread and shake my head.The hours put into the machining(without even mentioning the planning/measuring/remeasuring/prototypes etc)would be astronomically expensive.I can't even express how I view this project.I'm so amazed by it that I am really lost for wards.
For me at least,this is the benchmark for turntable mods.Not that it would be the approach to be taken under all circumstances,but just for the degree of effort,the determination to excel the original in all aspects and the success and utter professional presentation of the final outcome.It makes some much lauded State of The Art turntable designs look decidedly amateur.
I do feel that someone should pass this thread onto the Mitsubishi Corp in Japan(though,I have a feeling that they knew about it in the first 24 hours after the initial post).
Dear friends your words make me blush...
Any big corporation can make things in a proper way and way cheaper too, as mass production kicks in and cuts costs.
But for whom?How big would be the target group that would actually pay the
cost of such a turntable?
A 100 or a 1000 people?This is pocket money for Mitsubishi (who is the biggest industrial
corp in Japan).They prefer selling cars or air conditioners that have a target group of millions...
But please don't think that since i am a doctor i am a novice...
Teaser for DD lovers(theophile are you there?):see photo...
Any big corporation can make things in a proper way and way cheaper too, as mass production kicks in and cuts costs.
But for whom?How big would be the target group that would actually pay the
cost of such a turntable?
A 100 or a 1000 people?This is pocket money for Mitsubishi (who is the biggest industrial
corp in Japan).They prefer selling cars or air conditioners that have a target group of millions...
But please don't think that since i am a doctor i am a novice...
Teaser for DD lovers(theophile are you there?):see photo...
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Oh yeah.I'm here(2am).Just about to hit the hay.
Don't blush(oh go-on,if you are really modest),you deserve the compliments.
Mitsubishi couldn't have released a turntable like that because the accountants would have killed it at the discussion stage.Case closed.It would have been killed before a prototype could have been built.
Nice diy Denon plinth!!! Is it the DP-6000?
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I wouldn't be too sure about the accountants. Mitsubishi is probably the largest of the Japanese Zaibatsu concerns, and as such, have enormous pride in their position. I wouldn't be surprised if several of their Directors aren't audiophiles themselves (after all, we're talking about Japan) and as such, could easily override any accountant's objections.
Even today, it isn't always dollars and cents, or even Bean Counters, that have the last word.
Best Regards,
TerryO
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For everyone interested in truly exceptional turntables of years ago,that would make a killer
turntable (with a little diy effort), the japanese yahoo auction forum is the place to look.
This week i have seen around 5 DP-80s for sale from plinth-less ones to full turntables starting from 500$.Many fine DP59Ls for about the same money (i have a soft spot for the
DP series!)There are many small companies that will take your bidding and handle the package to your country (of course with a fee).
The DP-80 you saw has cost 5000 euro all in (turntable/tweaks/CNC/paint/tonearm/cartridge/PS)
and that left some change in the pocket of my friend who sold his expensive german
made acrylic turntable in a heartbeat (i will mention no name) after hearing both...
turntable (with a little diy effort), the japanese yahoo auction forum is the place to look.
This week i have seen around 5 DP-80s for sale from plinth-less ones to full turntables starting from 500$.Many fine DP59Ls for about the same money (i have a soft spot for the
DP series!)There are many small companies that will take your bidding and handle the package to your country (of course with a fee).
The DP-80 you saw has cost 5000 euro all in (turntable/tweaks/CNC/paint/tonearm/cartridge/PS)
and that left some change in the pocket of my friend who sold his expensive german
made acrylic turntable in a heartbeat (i will mention no name) after hearing both...
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