I'm fed up!!

soma89 · 2nd February 2010, 05:26 PM

I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products.

I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

Netlist · 2nd February 2010, 06:07 PM

Do a little search here at the forum. You'll find quite some good info on cleaning records.
Personally I use a Okki Nokki cleaning machine and made a cleaning solution like they do at the library of congress Cylinder, Disc and Tape Care in a Nutshell (Preservation, Library of Congress)

raypalmer · 06:18 PM

Have you used a record cleaning machine?

I'm currently amassing parts to build my own, but otherwise I use the VPI 16.5 we have at work. It's a miracle machine, give the records a good scrub with the vpi juice and then a spin on the cleaner and they're as silent as they'll ever get.

(PS I'm pretty sure the VPI stuff is the same as the Congress stuff)

chrismercurio · 2nd February 2010, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soma89

I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products.

I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

Some records will always sound that way because of damage to the grooves. Cleaning products will not repair damage but will in many cases release mold and dirt and improve the sound.

Geek · 2nd February 2010, 09:21 PM

Air compressor with the sports ball filling attachment a few mm above a spinning record does the trick too.

Takes some time, but does a heckuva job

Cheers!

steven0356 · 3rd February 2010, 12:17 PM

Ok what is Tergitol™ 15-S-7 Surfactant, and where can you get it.

Netlist · 3rd February 2010, 12:30 PM

Give Dow Chemicals a phone call.

brianco · 03:21 PM

Be very careful of using chemicals. They accelerate the migration of the plasticisers used in manufacture. Such migration is a natural process which speeds up in warmer rooms. The result is that the surface becomes more brittle and this can only result in more noise.

The other danger is that some chemicals can loosen the glue which holds the stylus to the cantilever and result in it coming adrift. I cfan unfortunately speak from experience on this risk!

No doubt someone who knows the science involved can post more fully on this.

makaiyumtony · 3rd February 2010, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soma89

I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products.

I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

I have a post in here title Do you think OK to wax a vinyl ? try it to see any different after, it will help to reduce static too, or get a heavy duty tape eraser from ebay (old product for vidio audio tape) also can reduce static problem
Tony Ma

Netlist · 3rd February 2010, 04:55 PM

Good advice, Brianco.
I use the Tergitol solution and rinse the record twice thoroughly with distilled water.
I have done test with an old record. Using the Tergitol solution without rinsing leaves visible stains but I wasn't able to hear any suspicious noises or artifacts.

2nd February 2010, 05:26 PM	#1
soma89 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2009	I'm fed up!! I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products. I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

2nd February 2010, 06:17 PM	#3
raypalmer diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Burlington	Have you used a record cleaning machine? I'm currently amassing parts to build my own, but otherwise I use the VPI 16.5 we have at work. It's a miracle machine, give the records a good scrub with the vpi juice and then a spin on the cleaner and they're as silent as they'll ever get. (PS I'm pretty sure the VPI stuff is the same as the Congress stuff) __________________ Wherever you go there you are. Last edited by raypalmer; 2nd February 2010 at 06:18 PM. Reason: addition

3rd February 2010, 03:17 PM	#8
brianco diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scottish Borders - Kelso; on the famous Tweed River!	Be very careful of using chemicals. They accelerate the migration of the plasticisers used in manufacture. Such migration is a natural process which speeds up in warmer rooms. The result is that the surface becomes more brittle and this can only result in more noise. The other danger is that some chemicals can loosen the glue which holds the stylus to the cantilever and result in it coming adrift. I cfan unfortunately speak from experience on this risk! No doubt someone who knows the science involved can post more fully on this. Last edited by brianco; 3rd February 2010 at 03:21 PM.

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2nd February 2010, 06:07 PM	#2
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2003	Do a little search here at the forum. You'll find quite some good info on cleaning records. Personally I use a Okki Nokki cleaning machine and made a cleaning solution like they do at the library of congress Cylinder, Disc and Tape Care in a Nutshell (Preservation, Library of Congress)

2nd February 2010, 09:21 PM	#5
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Air compressor with the sports ball filling attachment a few mm above a spinning record does the trick too. Takes some time, but does a heckuva job Cheers!

3rd February 2010, 12:17 PM	#6
steven0356 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Atlanta	Ok what is Tergitol™ 15-S-7 Surfactant, and where can you get it.

3rd February 2010, 12:30 PM	#7
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2003	Give Dow Chemicals a phone call.

3rd February 2010, 04:55 PM	#10
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2003	Good advice, Brianco. I use the Tergitol solution and rinse the record twice thoroughly with distilled water. I have done test with an old record. Using the Tergitol solution without rinsing leaves visible stains but I wasn't able to hear any suspicious noises or artifacts.

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