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soma89 2nd February 2010 05:26 PM

I'm fed up!!
 
I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products.

I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

Netlist 2nd February 2010 06:07 PM

Do a little search here at the forum. You'll find quite some good info on cleaning records.
Personally I use a Okki Nokki cleaning machine and made a cleaning solution like they do at the library of congress Cylinder, Disc and Tape Care in a Nutshell (Preservation, Library of Congress)

raypalmer 2nd February 2010 06:17 PM

Have you used a record cleaning machine?

I'm currently amassing parts to build my own, but otherwise I use the VPI 16.5 we have at work. It's a miracle machine, give the records a good scrub with the vpi juice and then a spin on the cleaner and they're as silent as they'll ever get.

(PS I'm pretty sure the VPI stuff is the same as the Congress stuff)

chrismercurio 2nd February 2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soma89 (Post 2071077)
I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products.

I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

Some records will always sound that way because of damage to the grooves. Cleaning products will not repair damage but will in many cases release mold and dirt and improve the sound.

Geek 2nd February 2010 09:21 PM

Air compressor with the sports ball filling attachment a few mm above a spinning record does the trick too.

Takes some time, but does a heckuva job :D

Cheers!

steven0356 3rd February 2010 12:17 PM

Ok what is Tergitol™ 15-S-7 Surfactant, and where can you get it.

Netlist 3rd February 2010 12:30 PM

Give Dow Chemicals a phone call. :)

brianco 3rd February 2010 03:17 PM

Be very careful of using chemicals. They accelerate the migration of the plasticisers used in manufacture. Such migration is a natural process which speeds up in warmer rooms. The result is that the surface becomes more brittle and this can only result in more noise.

The other danger is that some chemicals can loosen the glue which holds the stylus to the cantilever and result in it coming adrift. I cfan unfortunately speak from experience on this risk!:mad:

No doubt someone who knows the science involved can post more fully on this.

makaiyumtony 3rd February 2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soma89 (Post 2071077)
I've tried everything...distilled water, 99% alcohol, Dawn, Sunlight, Windex..Everything. Some of my records still sound crackly despite what a lot of people say about these products.

I'm thinking it could be a static problem...Has anyone ever heard of using Armor All on records? Anything else I could use that would help my situatin here? Thanks

I have a post in here title Do you think OK to wax a vinyl ? try it to see any different after, it will help to reduce static too, or get a heavy duty tape eraser from ebay (old product for vidio audio tape) also can reduce static problem
Tony Ma

Netlist 3rd February 2010 04:55 PM

Good advice, Brianco.
I use the Tergitol solution and rinse the record twice thoroughly with distilled water.
I have done test with an old record. Using the Tergitol solution without rinsing leaves visible stains but I wasn't able to hear any suspicious noises or artifacts.


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