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Old 3rd January 2010, 02:39 PM   #1
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hi guys
ive posted this on another forum so ill post here as well as i seriously need to make a decision soon so appricate everyones advice etc.
im on the look out for a turntable thats gonna keep me intrested soundwise for at least afew years i hope.
ive been looking at pro-ject turntables,the rpm range as mainly they look intresting visually compared to other stuff and also they seem afair price.
now i know thats no way to buy a turntable,not if you put sound quality first which obviously i do,so im out to strike a balance.
the trouble is i havent heard a turntable in at least 10 yrs so havent got aclue where the best bang for buck lies,and as theres no dealers to speak of here im not going to get achance to hear any
the first thing i need to clear up and hopefully without the die-hards turning this into a belt vrs dd thread is for around lets say 700 target price what would give me a real decent sound out of the two for that figure?
ive read about the technics etc,ive also read reviews regarding belt drives such as projects all stating how wonderful they sound,but as ive pointed out ive heard neither so i dont know whats gonna suit me regarding the two types virtues...is there a generalisation regarding there charecters.
i really want a fit and forget solution,plus i only have a cambridge 640p phonostage so theres proberly no point going to crazy is there?
obviously i would tweak whatever i got but i dont and wont live and breath it regarding modding,upgrading it etc and dont want to exceed that 700 budget that i havent got yet
the technics sounds intresting but to buy new is around 450 then how much would you have to spend till it was in the same performance regarding a 700 belt drive such as a pro-ject 6.1 sb or something.
like i say ive read the threads etc and certainly dont want to enter into a debate over which is best,im just after peeps advice who have experience of them all without preference and give me some idea which will give me the best sound and bang for buck at my target price!!!
please help,its all driving me to drink
all the best
smithie
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Old 3rd January 2010, 03:40 PM   #2
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Hi,will a cartridge be included in the 700 pounds?
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Old 3rd January 2010, 04:22 PM   #3
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yes i was hoping to be all in for that,obviously if another 25-50 quid made a big difference to my sound quality/choice then i would find it somehow...but you have to draw aline somewhere dont you.
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Old 3rd January 2010, 04:33 PM   #4
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The Technics is a great bang for the buck. With what is left you can buy yourself a better cartridge. I'm very pleased with Grado.
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Old 12th January 2010, 10:32 PM   #5
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You could always look at 2nd hand gear
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Old 13th January 2010, 12:59 AM   #6
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You could always look at 2nd hand gear
I'd x2 this, although for used turntables, you'd really want to either look into local options or find someone with experience in shipping turntables. There's a lot of ways the freight monkeys can destroy one, even properly packed

That said, I bought the VPI HW-19jr I had on Audiogon; I thought the transaction went very well, and I got a good amount of 'table for what I spent
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Old 13th January 2010, 12:18 PM   #7
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Hi all,
I will share my thoughts as i went through a similar journey. 700 will get eaten up quickly if you buy new, or go a long way with used gear. I still use the CA640P and think its a great unit. Initially i used an old Rega tt with VMS20 MM cart, was ok but miles away from my Jolida JD100 cd player, so i fitted a Grado prestige gold cart. This was a nice upgrade but not upto CD. So i bought a Thorens TD321 with a Linn Basik plus arm, a really good sound for the money and now up with the cd player. Then i bought an AT33PTG mc cartridge, This was a huge leap up in quality. Cost about 400, but is by far the biggest upgrade to my system. Since then i have built a DIY high end ish deck with a SME111 arm. together this is a different league to CD.
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If i was doing it again....It all starts with the cartridge.
AT33PTG 400 that leaves 300 for a used TT and good arm, maybe a Thorens 150 or a SL1200 200 and 150 for a SME arm.
Works for me!
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Old 13th January 2010, 12:34 PM   #8
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I'd suggest a Technics SL1200 (there is NOTHING out there new which could compete on price) and a Denon DL110 cartridge.
If you want to upgrade anything get a better arm (the Technics only weak point), there are always plenty bases for almost any arm on ebay uk.
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Old 13th January 2010, 12:38 PM   #9
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Do you have any construction info on that table? Motor you used, etc? The result looks great
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The above link should take you to something very special!! [ Send me a personal message if you have difficulty.] I have absolutely nothing to do with the TT or seller other than that I think it is a fabulous bargain!
Have a look at the last post - it is now at 475.00 - but most of the people on that site 'roll their own', so it is sticking!!! This will eat any turntable at four times the price!! Spares are easy to get and you can even get a brand new bearing built to the highest standards from a specialised machinist!!

This woud leave you a decent budget for a cartridge and would easily cover a Denon 103 MC!

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