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Old 21st November 2009, 08:33 PM   #11
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If I had to go back to belt drive, the first turntable I'd look for is a Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 (not the one with the black top surface). The bearing/sub/platter assembly was second to none, can mount virtually any 9" or 10" arm, and don't require a platter mat. They usually go in the $300 range, and can smoke the Linn variants. Plus, you don't have to hire a contortionist/magician to set them up... the suspension tuning is done up top.

Can you tell I'm a fan? I would never have sold mine, if not to buy an SP 10.
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Old 21st November 2009, 08:43 PM   #12
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With your budget the only turntable I would consider is a Lenco idler drive. These have - when cleaned up and re greased - a remarkable performance. What IS ESSENTIAL is to make a truly high mass plinth. You can find a dedicated forum at:

<http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php>

There are others but this TT when properly used will wipe the floor with some very upmarket gear indeed!! Just make sure that you get one with a heavy platter. The above site will give all the information you will need.

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Old 21st November 2009, 09:00 PM   #13
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Can we NOT recommend Rega for at least once? B-O-R-I-N-G!! Seriously, there are so many options in the used market. Try something different for crying out loud!!
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Old 22nd November 2009, 01:25 AM   #14
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SP 10.
Technics SP10?

That was one of the big DDs we had in the shop. Regularily got spanked by all sorts of less expensive belt-drives.

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Old 22nd November 2009, 08:24 PM   #15
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Can we NOT recommend Rega for at least once? B-O-R-I-N-G!! Seriously, there are so many options in the used market. Try something different for crying out loud!!
I guess it depends on what pixpop means with "experiment with tonearms".If it is just to put them on a turntable(I don't think this is what he means)then no problem with a rega either.If however he wants a turntable to judge tonearms then you are right there are better "references" definitely.
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Old 23rd November 2009, 04:41 AM   #16
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Technics SP10?

That was one of the big DDs we had in the shop. Regularily got spanked by all sorts of less expensive belt-drives.

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It regularly does the spanking around here, but then it's sitting directly coupled to my basement floor and not being bounced around in a a "shop".
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Old 24th November 2009, 05:38 AM   #17
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Default A reference is a reference is a reference....

references are just that, references.

If you want a reference that is a known quantity (which is the goal in determining what a reference piece is), then you have already made a choice. My understanding as you stated it, is to provide you with a "constant" or target to hit with your project.

The reference can be whatever known quantity there is, and as Jesse points out, simple vs. complex. I would suggest a table of a similar type and construction to the project table . That way there will be no "suspended" vs. "non-suspended" comparisons. And obviously a similar arm. if an RB300 arm is already for the project, it would be preferable to get a reference table with an RB arm from Rega. (regardless of the model, it is after all a reference).

One of the most satisfying tables I have is a Sugden Connoisseur re-plinthed on a hardwood chopping block (or maybe bamboo?). I extended the plinth with two 1" aluminium square tubing pieces. It shocked the h*ll out of me. Mount whatever arm (the best you can afford), and in my humble opinion, you'd be a long way to seeing off almost any table in the price range you suggest. Just remember to save some $$$s for a decent cart and cable...
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Old 24th November 2009, 12:22 PM   #18
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I'm thinking about buying a used TT to use as a reference and maybe for experiments with different arms. I'm not sure how much I want to spend at the moment, but probably between $500 and $1000 US. I'm in the middle of selling off a bunch of stuff that will provide some funding for this project. I already have $62 in my PayPal account, yay!

I want something that I can get parts for, thats easy to work on, and that I can swap out the arm for a different one if necessary. Belt drive. Something that will maintain its value would also be nice.

Some time ago, I was thinking a Thorens would be the thing to get, but I can't remember what model I was interested in. Might have been a 160.

Any suggestions? Do I need to think more than $1000?
In the land of AR I would suggest one of the later AR tables. I use an AR The Turntable. There are plenty around, lots of after market and custom bits available and it shouldn't be hard to get together a collection of arm boards that will make changing out arms relatively easy.

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Another serious contender for me would be a Thorens TD125 mkII if you can find one. An example with sound electronics will trounce pretty much anything else belt drive mentioned in this thread. Arm boards are interchangeable and if the table is properly mounted the suspension can be taken out of the equation making the weight of any arm fitted irrelevant.

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Can we NOT recommend Rega for at least once? B-O-R-I-N-G!! Seriously, there are so many options in the used market. Try something different for crying out loud!!
I'd recommend Rega arms on many different turntables...boring, perhaps, but a great platform for future mods
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Old 25th November 2009, 08:08 AM   #20
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Default a recommendation... or two...

hey, tweak a Rega arm. If you already have one. Then get a stocker or use the tweaked arm as your arm standard. Then get the best table of a similar type as you intend on building. A few hundred dollars spend with a VTA adjuster, a techno-weight (or similar) and upgraded wiring will see off more expensive arms easily.

So that could leave up to USD$800 for an armless table. So many to choose from.

I still contend if a good platter and bearing (and a good motor) can be had for a reasonable price they would constitute a great table in a suitable plinth. Else get ye a Linn Axis or similar with an Akito II arm and cartridge, and know that it is a good table and will take some work to better it.

or AR, Oracle, Garrard (if you can afford one), Thorens, Ariston, Dunlop-Systemdek (now Audionote), Lenco heavy platter...
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