An interesting way to clean records

planet10 · 28th June 2009, 11:24 PM

http://digitanalogue.blogspot.com/20...l-records.html

dave

Jonathan Bright · 28th June 2009, 11:58 PM

Thanks. Looks interesting. Worth a try. Cheaper than LAST!

Jonathan

kevinkr · 29th June 2009, 12:38 AM

Woe betide you if you do not get every last bit of that glue out the first time.

Experiment with disks you don't care about until you figure it out..

And make sure you use a PVA based glue, not all wood glues are..

dnewma04 · 29th June 2009, 04:18 AM

There were a number of guys on audiokarma who tried out the glue with semi mixed results.

Conrad Hoffman · 29th June 2009, 04:43 AM

Tried it. No better than my usual manual methods, but a much larger PITA. What are my usual methods? Glad you asked- it's always good for a firestorm of disapproval. I use an old Watts record cleaning brush and one of three things. First is the DIY solution posted various places consisting of water, isopropyl and a wetting agent. IMO, it's not very effective and I use it less and less. The second tier is a lab detergent made for cleaning glassware- Alconox if I remember correctly. Pretty good, but not the ultimate. The ultimate is an enzyme cleaner that's safe, gentle and gets out just about everything- "Out" pet stain remover. After scrubbing with the grooves I rinse with clean water, pat dry then quickly complete the job by drying with a slightly humid Discwasher brush. I also have a steam cleaner that's quite effective. IMHO, it isn't the steam, but the fact that it's producing pure distilled water, which is an excellent solvent on it's own, and leaves nothing behind.

oshifis · 30th June 2009, 06:52 AM

I started a thread with the same subject not long ago:

My LP cleaning method

Raphael Shaw · 30th June 2009, 08:35 AM

This 'glue method', can also be used to protect records against pressure.
If you need to pack some records for moving or something and you're worried about them being damaged by pressure, you can apply the layer, pack the records, and remove the layer when you unpack.

ballsingtripp · 1st July 2009, 02:31 AM

^ At 5 hours per record?

flavio81 · 3rd September 2009, 06:48 PM

It works, i'm currently using it for cleaning records. The most important thing is that it CLEANS FUNGUS and molds!!

BTW for me it takes like 12H until the thing dries up. Maybe i should use carpenter glue. The question is... will RTV silicone work too?

Binaural · 3rd September 2009, 08:33 PM

I've been using this wood glue method for a little while now and I've had mixed results.

For some that have been in storage, outside the sleeve with tons and tons of dirt/dust/mold, or whatever, this seems to work very well because it gets every last speck out of the grooves.

For lightly dusty/dirty records, I just use dish detergent and my hands to scrub them, then wash them off with distilled water.

The biggest problem I've seen with this method besides the immense time required, is the static created when the glue is removed. This pretty much defeats the purpose of cleaning the record if it's going to be a literal magnet for dust and dirt after the glue is removed.

Just my $.02.

28th June 2009, 11:24 PM	#1
planet10 diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 4	An interesting way to clean records http://digitanalogue.blogspot.com/20...l-records.html dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

28th June 2009, 11:58 PM	#2
Jonathan Bright diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Queensland	Thanks. Looks interesting. Worth a try. Cheaper than LAST! Jonathan __________________ "It was the Spring time of the year when aunt calls to aunt like mastodons across the frozen waste." P.G. Wodehouse.

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kevinkr diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Blog Entries: 6	Woe betide you if you do not get every last bit of that glue out the first time. Experiment with disks you don't care about until you figure it out.. And make sure you use a PVA based glue, not all wood glues are.. __________________ www.kta-hifi.net

29th June 2009, 04:43 AM	#5
Conrad Hoffman diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canandaigua, NY USA	Tried it. No better than my usual manual methods, but a much larger PITA. What are my usual methods? Glad you asked- it's always good for a firestorm of disapproval. I use an old Watts record cleaning brush and one of three things. First is the DIY solution posted various places consisting of water, isopropyl and a wetting agent. IMO, it's not very effective and I use it less and less. The second tier is a lab detergent made for cleaning glassware- Alconox if I remember correctly. Pretty good, but not the ultimate. The ultimate is an enzyme cleaner that's safe, gentle and gets out just about everything- "Out" pet stain remover. After scrubbing with the grooves I rinse with clean water, pat dry then quickly complete the job by drying with a slightly humid Discwasher brush. I also have a steam cleaner that's quite effective. IMHO, it isn't the steam, but the fact that it's producing pure distilled water, which is an excellent solvent on it's own, and leaves nothing behind. __________________ I used to be an audiophool like you but then I took an arrow to the knee.

30th June 2009, 08:35 AM	#7
Raphael Shaw diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cape Town,South Africa	Used to protect. This 'glue method', can also be used to protect records against pressure. If you need to pack some records for moving or something and you're worried about them being damaged by pressure, you can apply the layer, pack the records, and remove the layer when you unpack. __________________ -R.Shaw


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29th June 2009, 04:18 AM	#4
dnewma04 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MI	There were a number of guys on audiokarma who tried out the glue with semi mixed results.

30th June 2009, 06:52 AM	#6
oshifis diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Budapest, Hungary	I started a thread with the same subject not long ago: My LP cleaning method

1st July 2009, 02:31 AM	#8
ballsingtripp diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2008	^ At 5 hours per record?

3rd September 2009, 06:48 PM	#9
flavio81 diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lima, Peru	It works, i'm currently using it for cleaning records. The most important thing is that it CLEANS FUNGUS and molds!! BTW for me it takes like 12H until the thing dries up. Maybe i should use carpenter glue. The question is... will RTV silicone work too?

3rd September 2009, 08:33 PM	#10
Binaural diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Monroe, NC (SE of Charlotte)	I've been using this wood glue method for a little while now and I've had mixed results. For some that have been in storage, outside the sleeve with tons and tons of dirt/dust/mold, or whatever, this seems to work very well because it gets every last speck out of the grooves. For lightly dusty/dirty records, I just use dish detergent and my hands to scrub them, then wash them off with distilled water. The biggest problem I've seen with this method besides the immense time required, is the static created when the glue is removed. This pretty much defeats the purpose of cleaning the record if it's going to be a literal magnet for dust and dirt after the glue is removed. Just my $.02.

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