Cartridge for ar77 turntable

chrisspe · 5th January 2009, 10:59 PM

Hi

I know this question gets asked soo much and is really quite boring but it is keeping me awake at night (well not quite literally but...), i have done lots of searching btw... :

I have an old ar 77 (think xb) turntable which i am refurbishing, it was meant to be pretty ok in its day, and I need to buy it a half decent phono cartridge.

I am on a pretty tight budged with all this, I have an old ortofon vms20e mkii body but no stylus, a replacement is £75 which is quite a lot on a student budget without even knowing the condition of the body, I have seen replament non original styli for £15 but would these be up to it?

O)rtherwise I could go for a new cartridge, what are peoples opinions on the 2m red (£60ish) or is there something better around that price.

Oh I listen to mainly rock type stuff and some 'pop' and prefer a richer fuller sound, dont want anything overly bright but i dont want it to sound dull either.

Any sugestions are most welcome.

Cheers Chris

(sorry this is not the briefest of posts)

jazzy939 · 5th January 2009, 11:41 PM

I would like to recommend the Ortofon OM10 Super. Very versatile cartridge and to me 'best value' for money. Can be upgraded later just by changing the stylus. Do a Google search for the reviews.. I bought it. Absolutely no regrets!

Panicos K · 6th January 2009, 09:05 PM

Try a Nagaoka MP100

sreten · 7th January 2009, 12:45 PM

http://www.hifix.co.uk/sku.lasso?ite...0C51XXR3F477D7

Hi, difficult to do any better than the above for £60,

/sreten.

chrisspe · 9th January 2009, 02:22 AM

thanks for the reply, I have been looking at that, an mc for 60... but im a little worried about the output. I know its high output but its still a fith of a normal mm cartridge and i do have issues hit noise already. (these issues are prob poor grounding)

sreten · 9th January 2009, 02:04 PM

Hi,

The spec (1.6mV) is about 1/3 of normal output (5mV@5cm/s),
it has been measured to be 2.2mV@5cm/s = about a half.

That is ~ 6dB, but it has low impedance and inductance, in reality
with a real MM phono stage it will be quieter by a fair margin at
high frequencies than typical MM. (Grado's are an exception).

For a typical MM noise at high frequencies is determined by the 47K
loading resistor due to internal inductance decoupling the typical
~ 1K source impedance at low frequencies.

/sreten.

5th January 2009, 10:59 PM	#1
chrisspe diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Cartridge for ar77 turntable Hi I know this question gets asked soo much and is really quite boring but it is keeping me awake at night (well not quite literally but...), i have done lots of searching btw... : I have an old ar 77 (think xb) turntable which i am refurbishing, it was meant to be pretty ok in its day, and I need to buy it a half decent phono cartridge. I am on a pretty tight budged with all this, I have an old ortofon vms20e mkii body but no stylus, a replacement is £75 which is quite a lot on a student budget without even knowing the condition of the body, I have seen replament non original styli for £15 but would these be up to it? O)rtherwise I could go for a new cartridge, what are peoples opinions on the 2m red (£60ish) or is there something better around that price. Oh I listen to mainly rock type stuff and some 'pop' and prefer a richer fuller sound, dont want anything overly bright but i dont want it to sound dull either. Any sugestions are most welcome. Cheers Chris (sorry this is not the briefest of posts)

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5th January 2009, 11:41 PM	#2
jazzy939 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2007	I would like to recommend the Ortofon OM10 Super. Very versatile cartridge and to me 'best value' for money. Can be upgraded later just by changing the stylus. Do a Google search for the reviews.. I bought it. Absolutely no regrets!

6th January 2009, 09:05 PM	#3
Panicos K diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Try a Nagaoka MP100

7th January 2009, 12:45 PM	#4
sreten diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton UK	http://www.hifix.co.uk/sku.lasso?ite...0C51XXR3F477D7 Hi, difficult to do any better than the above for £60, /sreten.

9th January 2009, 02:22 AM	#5
chrisspe diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2007	thanks for the reply, I have been looking at that, an mc for 60... but im a little worried about the output. I know its high output but its still a fith of a normal mm cartridge and i do have issues hit noise already. (these issues are prob poor grounding)

9th January 2009, 02:04 PM	#6
sreten diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton UK	Hi, The spec (1.6mV) is about 1/3 of normal output (5mV@5cm/s), it has been measured to be 2.2mV@5cm/s = about a half. That is ~ 6dB, but it has low impedance and inductance, in reality with a real MM phono stage it will be quieter by a fair margin at high frequencies than typical MM. (Grado's are an exception). For a typical MM noise at high frequencies is determined by the 47K loading resistor due to internal inductance decoupling the typical ~ 1K source impedance at low frequencies. /sreten.

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