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Old 14th June 2009, 02:16 PM   #521
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Forum member peranders has decided to mediate between Rhys and the hordes of angry people who were in on the many different group buys Rhys was running.

I was trying to keep a record of the phonoclone 3 subset, but once it became clear that only about 10-20% of the orders were actually fulfilled there wasn't much else I could do ... I have no more influence over Rhys than you guys do. Hopefully peranders does.

I suggest emailing peranders with the details of your order: what you ordered, how much you paid and when you paid, and what if anything you received. Then cross your fingers and hope...

The wiki is here:

http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index.p...up+Buy+Round+2

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Old 14th June 2009, 02:48 PM   #522
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thanks rjm. So letīs hope
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Old 14th June 2009, 11:30 PM   #523
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The situation can be monitored at the BPA300 group buy forum.

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Old 15th June 2009, 04:35 AM   #524
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Hi Richard,

Received my pcbs this morning. They look great! Thanks.

Now will have to wait for my parts kit from Rhys before I can complete the project.

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Old 15th June 2009, 11:29 PM   #525
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Boards have arrived in lovely Minnesota. I'll be ordering my parts from digikey.
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Old 19th June 2009, 03:21 PM   #526
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I have finally finished my P3 after a few stuff ups with one board. The good news is that nothing seems to have been damaged in spite of it.

The power supply is 80VA toroid with dual rectifiers. I have hardwired the phono leads out with DH Audio silver interconnect.

Iím using a ATF9 II (20 ohm, 0.4V) with a R1/R2 of 20/520 ohm metal film. I plan on changing to better quality carbon film when I can. After a few hours itís quite a bit better than my Musical Fidelity V3.
I also have a DL103R which I haven't tried as yet. Since getting the AT, I much prefer it to the 103R but will try later. Plan is to make another soon.
Hope Rhys gets his kits out.

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Old 20th June 2009, 11:11 AM   #527
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I have gone through a few LP's today and compared the MF V3 and realised that the background noise is higher on the P3.

I have 2 arms on my Lenco L75 and one connected to each phono preamp which are both connected to the preamp. I'm listening on headphones and switching between the 2 at listening level (9 o'clock) the P3 is just audible and the MF is silent. The MF is only audible at 12 o'clock position.

Am I doing a fair comparison? Can I expect better from the P3? Where do I start?

Either way once the needle hits the vinyl the MF falls way behind. I have even tried played both arms at once and switching between the 2. I had a 103R on the Micro Seiki M505 and a AT F5 on the Technoarm. I will put a AT F9 on the Technoarm later for a better comparison.

Any advice welcome.
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Old 20th June 2009, 11:17 AM   #528
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Difference in amplifaction facor of both phono stages may play a role.

Is the audio level using both phono stages at lets say 3 PM on your volume control the same?
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Old 20th June 2009, 11:24 AM   #529
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The MF is a bit softer but not much. Still raising the volume to the same (a mm or 2) and the MF is still quite. Noise just starts at 12 o'clock.

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Old 20th June 2009, 11:46 AM   #530
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maybe you can test the following: comparing the noise from connecting preferrably the same cartridge through the different phono stages at a level (these levels may be different for both phonestages) that normally is the loudest you use, but then without lowering the cartridge to the vinyl.

A logaritmic volume control is progressing slower near the max setting, and your ears are pretty sensitive for recogizing this max level so this test may be more accurate.

Of course a real measurement would be better ...
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