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Old 21st October 2012, 05:58 PM   #8291
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Yes the Goldring.

Yes, MC25FL is even better, smoother than the Rondo Red.

In general a cart is a personal taste thing and can yield different results easily regarding each TT synergy and set up, or even having something that other elements in a system are lacking or having in excess, like complimenting the speakers for instance. Beyond Denon DL103 or DL103R which is a cart with so classic sound that not many seem to totally discard its difficult to put the finger in the low to mid price range without experiencing the asking system for real. Add Dynavector 10X5 in the top dogs HMC list. Major strength is having a DIY tweak phono to press them in right tonal service. If establishing the right tone in a system, then the other strengths or blemishes are of lesser order.
And MC25FL is less in $ compared to Rondo Red...

I could easily go for 103R, but I'm afraid it's not the best match for RB300. That's why I continue to scout.

I agree, a cartridge is very ears and system dependant. Thus, as a tool for the right tone, Simplistic RIAA is always very tempting. Though, a right TT and cartridge needs to be set up and established in a system first, I suppose.

PS. I think, I remember you saying Dyna 10X5 sounded brighter then life. Again, that might be system dependent.
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:06 PM   #8292
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The FL is discontinued though?
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:13 PM   #8293
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Previous guise 10X4 that I got could have some brightness tendencies, 10X5 is easier to match IMHO.
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:16 PM   #8294
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The FL is discontinued though?
It is, though still can be found on sale. Ortofon MC 25 FL / MC 25FL Tonabnehmer cartridge *NEU* | eBay
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:20 PM   #8295
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It has the suspension and weight characteristics of a 103 more or less to keep in mind regarding arms.
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:20 PM   #8296
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For my first cartridge ever I was choosing between Golding 1012 and that Dyna 10x5. Opted for a cheaper and a used one Goldring.
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:25 PM   #8297
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You can change tips, its an MM. That's a plus.
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Old 21st October 2012, 06:37 PM   #8298
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Changing tips is a plus, but their price is near 75% of the whole cartridge.

Regarding compliance :

FL25 16mm/N
Rondo Red 15 m/mN
1012GX 24 mm/N lateral 16 mm/N vertical

A better match and another option would be 103 in a aluminium body, like Denon ZU103R. At a price though. ZuDL-103 Cartridge | Zu Audio
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Old 21st October 2012, 07:06 PM   #8299
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You can get a normal DL103 and strip it, or use some custom rigid boxes they sell to re-house it. If I was to go there Zu Grade 1, then the Ortofon SPU Classic NE ugly duckling starts to wave. Never ending story.
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Rehousing a 103R might be a choice. But only if it helps to match the arm. I would never now, until done and tested. BTW, some people mount them stock on RB300 and are quite happy about it.

Approaching SPUs, I'm quite sure they are not for my kind of arms. Even NE. I've been told, the N series are normally used to refresh a dead or dying SPU, and some finagling with spacers is necessary to get them to work on a conventional headshell.

So for the high price point Benz ACE L or going for 12" arm + classic SPU might be a better option. Never ending, indeed.
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