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Old 7th June 2010, 05:53 PM   #3841
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I see you use a 150r for cart load... is that your final choice for the DL103 ?
You are right: I must fiddle around with this value.

So, my answer: just tried the 150r up to now.

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Old 7th June 2010, 05:56 PM   #3842
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Please let us know..... I am considering buying one 103 and would apreciate your input.

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Old 7th June 2010, 06:02 PM   #3843
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I bought my DL10R at a time, when I also had a DL103 and a TSD15.

And, together with the Lundahl 1:13 stepups I used at this time, the TSD15 was the best. Quite a big difference to the DL103's.

And second the DL103. Third the DL103R.

The R was not as integrated in the sound as the normal 103. A little bit more harsh.

Today, I dont have a normal 103 available to compare. So I just use the R. And rely on Salas's datas, as he is also using this cart. He must have tested it, I am sure.

But, I could not say if the higher price of the R version gives you what you want and pay for.

As a general advice: nothing beats the price/performance relationsship of a standard DL103.

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Old 7th June 2010, 06:02 PM   #3844
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Guys, this is a 103R right? 103 has different coils, much more Ohm. Me I use 150R for Denon DL103R.
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Old 7th June 2010, 06:49 PM   #3845
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As a general advice: nothing beats the price/performance relationsship of a standard DL103.
... at least when you have the suitable tonearm.

Because of the low compliance of the DL103 family, you need some mass to reach good tracking.

Definitely not suitable for a low mass tonearm.

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Old 7th June 2010, 09:57 PM   #3846
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I have one RB 300... do you think they would match ?
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Old 8th June 2010, 05:35 AM   #3847
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I have one RB 300... do you think they would match ?
I think so. At least: in tnt-audio they have a report with DL103/RB 300.

In my case, Thorens TD160/TP12, I added a 4g coin on the headshell and a small piece of lead at the counterweight.

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Old 8th June 2010, 11:44 AM   #3848
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I have a Linn Ekos medium mass & match very well with the Denon DL103R, Salas use medium or low mass with his Denon DL103R & he told that sounds very well also.

Have you measured the real weight with a precision Arm Load Meter? I tell you because I do it & the real weight measured with the Arm Load Meter is not the same that marked in the tonearm.

Have you tested with a test record LP the real FS that have you combination cart/arm, tell me the tonearm are you using to tell you the FS recomended.
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Old 8th June 2010, 11:57 AM   #3849
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Fs ?
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Old 8th June 2010, 12:02 PM   #3850
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I have one RB 300... do you think they would match ?
RB300 is medium arm mass 11,5 like the Ekos so sure match well like mine Ekos.
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