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Old 2nd March 2014, 07:33 PM   #12151
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Need a good cap ? Price for this is 400 pound
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Old 3rd March 2014, 01:39 AM   #12152
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Law of diminishing returns kicks in hard nonetheless. If someone's not having class A quality cart and TT better employ up to Clarity MR level, save money and upgrade those crucial source components first.
If talking a vinyl rig plus stereo installation already in the multi kilo EUR, alright, mix in top dog parts why not. Are you going to actually use those in your FSP?
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Old 4th March 2014, 10:57 AM   #12153
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Any one fancy trying these for C3.

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Old 4th March 2014, 11:18 AM   #12154
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Those look interesting. Are they available in Europe somewhere in sane prices?
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Old 4th March 2014, 01:00 PM   #12155
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Yes, I will try to get my hands on a few.

BTW, my tests of load resistors for Denon DL103r. For my ears an Rx of 220R by Rhopoint and R1 of 47K by Charcroft is the sweetest and still very revealing. The other way around with 47K Rhopoint and 220R Charcroft is to bright for me not to speak Z-foils on both RX and R1. Ok, happy so far - I will move further into the signal path now starting with R5/6/14. Objections anyone?

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It's your rig.
My next test is with Dale Ptf56 and ptf65.
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Yes, I will try to get my hands on a few.

BTW, my tests of load resistors for Denon DL103r. For my ears an Rx of 220R by Rhopoint and R1 of 47K by Charcroft is the sweetest and still very revealing. The other way around with 47K Rhopoint and 220R Charcroft is to bright for me not to speak Z-foils on both RX and R1. Ok, happy so far - I will move further into the signal path now starting with R5/6/14. Objections anyone?

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Its the small value that shunts the high value harder and dominates, logical conclusion when you prefer the Rhopoint. No objections, all those types we discuss here are top spec parts. Its just a matter of synergy and taste.
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It's your rig.
My next test is with Dale Ptf56 and ptf65.
Now I know it's my rig , I was more interested if someone thought it was better, of higher importance or possible gain to test something else first...

Will you test with the Dales all over or at some positions?

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Old 4th March 2014, 01:19 PM   #12159
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Its the small value that shunts the high value harder and dominates, logical conclusion when you prefer the Rhopoint. No objections, all those types we discuss here are top spec parts. Its just a matter of synergy and taste.
Yes, the law of disminishing returns
"logical conclusion when you prefer the Rhopoint" should maybe be
"logical conclusion when you prefer the Rhopoint in this position"

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Don't trust subjective conclusions for little details in sound when drawn in different systems. Trust yourself in your system for subtleties. Beware of the cartridges. A DL-103R when not geometrically set correctly can mistrack easier than others with finer tips and higher compliance, when the arm does not use damping or it is not old school heavy like most modern 9 inch arms are not, then they are susceptible to the high cantilever energy it passes back to them. So where a Z foil maybe objectionable in one system it may be neutral in another and so on and so forth. Some carts are sweet in the last octave some are easily excited, maybe they pass along with a silk dome tweeter but they can excite the oil can resonance of a metal dome which is near etc.
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