SME 3009 Question

lpd · 12th July 2008, 03:32 AM

Ok I'm confused about an arm on a deck I picked up. It is a 3009 but where I'm confused is whether or not its a 3009 improved or an S2. I'll post a couple pics for reference.

cliffforrest · 12th July 2008, 05:36 AM

It has the fixed headshell, so series 2.

lpd · 12th July 2008, 07:53 AM

Thanks.

tiku97 · 12th July 2008, 08:18 AM

SME 3009 Series II Improved, not S2, S2 is for detachable headshell.

h-wan · 12th July 2008, 08:18 AM

It's an improved.
Look at this site:
http://www.analogue-classics.com/htm...09___3012.html

Greetings from Vienna
Helmut

lpd · 12th July 2008, 05:27 PM

thanks for the clarification, but I'm unsure what weight of cartridge would suffice for this arm. Any suggestions?

YNWOAN · 12th July 2008, 06:04 PM

I wouldn't have thought that the weight of the cartridge is so much the issue - it's more the mass of the arm. The SME was designed with high compliance moving magnet cartridges in mind.

h-wan · 12th July 2008, 07:35 PM

The SME-improved is a low mass tonearm. So you need a cartridge with high compliance. I think Grado has a lot of very fine cartridges of this type.
The resonant frequency of your tonearm-cartridge-system should be between 8 - 11 Hz. You can simulate the resonant frequency on this side:
http://www.cartridgedb.com/default_arms.asp

Helmut

kevinkr · 14th July 2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by h-wan
The SME-improved is a low mass tonearm. So you need a cartridge with high compliance. I think Grado has a lot of very fine cartridges of this type.
The resonant frequency of your tonearm-cartridge-system should be between 8 - 11 Hz. You can simulate the resonant frequency on this side:
http://www.cartridgedb.com/default_arms.asp

Helmut

I have an older SME 3009 Series II (not the Improved) with detachable headshell. All Series II types I have seen have detachable headshells. Model designations are a bit confusing sometimes. I have the light weight headshell as well which interestingly is referred to as the S.2, while the heavier shell was the S.3..

Later Series II Improved have fixed headshells while the Series II Improved S2 has the detachable headshell - provided as a clarification.

Yours appears to the Series II Improved..

Parts are readily available for these arms from SME, and there are some good mods out there as well. I have installed the analogtubeaudio.de rca jack mod to replace the oem connectors on the bottom of the arm.

I have used several Grado types including the Reference Platinum which I really like. Check out the Vinyl Engine for manuals for these arms.

sreten · 14th July 2008, 05:42 PM

Hi,

Grado's would be fine in the SME. So would :

http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merc...tegory_Code=A3

Which is particularly fine value for money.

/sreten.

12th July 2008, 03:32 AM	#1
lpd diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: BC	SME 3009 Question Ok I'm confused about an arm on a deck I picked up. It is a 3009 but where I'm confused is whether or not its a 3009 improved or an S2. I'll post a couple pics for reference.

12th July 2008, 07:35 PM	#8
h-wan diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vienna	The SME-improved is a low mass tonearm. So you need a cartridge with high compliance. I think Grado has a lot of very fine cartridges of this type. The resonant frequency of your tonearm-cartridge-system should be between 8 - 11 Hz. You can simulate the resonant frequency on this side: http://www.cartridgedb.com/default_arms.asp Helmut __________________ h-wan from Vienna

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12th July 2008, 05:36 AM	#2
cliffforrest diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK	It has the fixed headshell, so series 2.

12th July 2008, 07:53 AM	#3
lpd diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: BC	Thanks.

12th July 2008, 08:18 AM	#4
tiku97 diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surabaya	SME 3009 Series II Improved, not S2, S2 is for detachable headshell.

12th July 2008, 05:27 PM	#6
lpd diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: BC	thanks for the clarification, but I'm unsure what weight of cartridge would suffice for this arm. Any suggestions?

12th July 2008, 06:04 PM	#7
YNWOAN diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2007	I wouldn't have thought that the weight of the cartridge is so much the issue - it's more the mass of the arm. The SME was designed with high compliance moving magnet cartridges in mind.

14th July 2008, 05:42 PM	#10
sreten diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton UK	Hi, Grado's would be fine in the SME. So would : http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merc...tegory_Code=A3 Which is particularly fine value for money. /sreten.