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Old 22nd April 2013, 03:55 AM   #21
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Cassettes now my main source of music, mostly recorded from vinyl or reels. Much better sound than CD
Really?? I have never seen good enough tape head preamp circuits. My Nakamichi SR7 is full of cheap opamps. Too noisy as well, no?
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Old 22nd April 2013, 10:00 AM   #22
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My biggest problem with cassette technology is that there is no takeoff reel brake, so tape tension is not properly controlled.
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Old 22nd April 2013, 11:07 AM   #23
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Supply reel will have friction to improve tension.

Try hearing your cassette on an AKAI GXC 39D. You can buy an old one on the net. It maybe cheap, but it will change your opinion that cassettes sound bad and you will be surprised.

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Old 22nd April 2013, 11:25 AM   #24
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My biggest problem with cassette technology is that there is no takeoff reel brake, so tape tension is not properly controlled.
So you have never studied the Nakamichi dual-capstan transport!

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Old 22nd April 2013, 12:18 PM   #25
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I must admit I haven't. I have a Sony TC-186SD perfectly satisfying my needs. I also had a Marantz SD-420 that had very nice features, but sounded inferior compared to the Sony.
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Old 23rd April 2013, 02:11 AM   #26
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My biggest problem with cassette technology is that there is no takeoff reel brake, so tape tension is not properly controlled.
No there isnt and its strange they didnt ever do that!!

VHS players do have smart rewind/forward meaning they SLOW DOWN as the tape gets near either end.... (Which is very good) -- I rmemeber the first VHS player we had in the 80s and that one DID NOT HAVE SMART REWIND/FORWARD and the tape would smash FULL SPEED @ the beggining or end... Not good i dont think for the tape!
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Old 23rd April 2013, 02:45 AM   #27
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Although a "cassette" in spirit. I still listen to tons of audio that I recorded to my Sony Beta Hi Fi. That took the place of my reel to reel.
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Old 23rd April 2013, 03:24 AM   #28
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My biggest problem with cassette technology is that there is no takeoff reel brake, so tape tension is not properly controlled.
The design includes enough friction on the takeoff reel obviously. Even with cheap players, such problems are usually with the takeup reel, i.e. "eating tapes."
Granted, "enough" is as ill-defined as "properly controlled," but there's no debate that the technology does work well, even if it falls short of the high end.
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Really?? I have never seen good enough tape head preamp circuits. My Nakamichi SR7 is full of cheap opamps. Too noisy as well, no?
The Nakamichi CR-7 is nor a very good sounding deck, IMHO, sorry!

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My biggest problem with cassette technology is that there is no takeoff reel brake, so tape tension is not properly controlled.
On all (properly working, obviously) dual-capstan cassette decks the supply side tension is controlled and the tape tension on the heads is stabilised by the dual-capstan transport. On some good quality single-capstan decks the supply side tension is controlled either mechanically or electronically.

A good quality cassette deck with a Type II or Type IV cassette can easily rival in sound quality a decent R2R at 7.5 ips. A special mastering 3.75 ips cassette deck can compete with a good R2R at 15 ips. I've used such a deck at several UK hi-fi shows as a second source in a 50K+ system. Nobody ever guessed from the sound alone that it was a cassette playing.

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Old 24th April 2013, 11:13 AM   #30
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Here comes my next question: how does a dual capstan transport work? I can't imagine exactly the same diameter and exactly the same rotation speed of the two capstans. A very-very tiny difference must exist due to mechanical tolerances. This should lead to overly tight or loose tape between the capstans over time. Or am I wrong?
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