Type of Switch

[Enochrome]

Does this kind of switch exist?

 

[Enochrome]

I think I drew that wrong....

 

[AndrewT]

attach you pic.

 

[Mooly]

I think I drew that wrong....

I think you did I've deleted whatever that was.

 

[Enochrome]

I think you did I've deleted whatever that was.

I hope you didn't that was offensive? It was my crappy way of drawing two toggle switches attached to each other.

Anyways, here is a more standard drawing that one get people to the second guess what I just drew (hopefully):

What I need is a switch that can both switch the input and output simultaneously, so I don't have to operate two separate switches to do so.

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

 

[Mooly]

All we (I) see is this:

 

[Enochrome]

Oops. Wrong image url link. One more time:

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

 

[Mooly]

Lets attach whatever that is to the thread:

 

[Mooly]

So you want to switch between either 'direct' or to have a 'tube' in the path.

So if you want to switch 'both sides' of each chain then you need a 4 pole switch:
LORLIN - CK1052 - SWITCH, 4 POLE 3 POS | CPC UK

 

[Enochrome]

Lets attach whatever that is to the thread:

Thanks. I'm new to posting images. Much appreciated.

 

[Mooly]

So its wired like this. This uses half the switch (two of the four individual switches) and shows just one channel.

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[scottjoplin]

Yep, looks like you want a 4 pole 2 way switch. often written 4PDT, DT meaning dual throw, same as 2 way

 

[Enochrome]

Yep, looks like you want a 4 pole 2 way switch. often written 4PDT, DT meaning dual throw, same as 2 way

Not quite sure how the output integrates into this? Do I reroute the outputs of the tube stage back into the switch?

 

[scottjoplin]

That's right, you effectively have a switch at both ends like you and Mooly have drawn, think of all 4 switches as completely separate entities

 

[Enochrome]

That's right, you effectively have a switch at both ends like you and Mooly have drawn, think of all 4 switches as completely separate entities

Thanks both of you for the info. I tried to figure out a wiring diagram based on what I have briefly learned about a 4dpdt switch based on what I need to do. I've attached the image (hopefully):

 

[scottjoplin]

Yep, that's it. I know sometimes it's hard to see the wood for the trees, ha ha, but you've got it. I am intrigued as to what you are planning, a bypassable tube pre amp?

 

[Enochrome]

Yep, that's it. I know sometimes it's hard to see the wood for the trees, ha ha, but you've got it. I am intrigued as to what you are planning, a bypassable tube pre amp?

Ha! That's funny

I'm planning on combining an Aikido linestage with either an LDR or AVC. I want the option of choosing active or passive, so I can use it with different amps. I know that it is not good to have too many connections in the signal path, but I'd still like to try.

Do you have a preference either LDR or AVC?

Thanks again for your help! I'm learning.

 

[scottjoplin]

LDR, Light Dependant Resistor? AVC, (active?automatic?) volume control, no experience with either I'm afraid. Don't get too hung up about connections, so long as it's a good quality switch and the wiring is well screened and not too long it won't make an appreciable difference

 

[AndrewT]

But do remember that every signal connection is a two wire connection.
Both must be close coupled to help reject interference. Close coupling can be achieved using a coaxial cable, or a twisted pair.

 

[Enochrome]

Thanks ya'll for the great information. I can't wait to start. I'll post pics as soon as I get going on the project.