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Old 17th November 2012, 06:40 AM   #2101
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Dicey.

Scott holds the ****-you wine record. Sauntered into the restaurant for dinner one night and plopped an 1850 Verdelho on the table. Consensus was that it needed another century. Oldest I have on hand at the moment is a '47 Rioja.
The oldest wine I have that I would proffer with complete confidence is a 1959 Yquem. Sitting next to that, a 1971 Petrus, and nearby friend Kathy's half-bottle of 1967 Yquem. All have been stored carefully for many years and were bought "new".

However, the provenance, subsequent impeccable storage, and fill of the La Tache magnum is very reassuring, despite the overall year being a mite spotty for burgundy. The problem is: what will the occasion be?

I once drank a DRC 1964 Richebourg by myself at one sitting. Too much --- I got toxic. A magnum of old burgundy needs at least four seasoned drinkers. And just the right, relatively neutral, but wonderful food.
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[QUOTE=bcarso;3244775]The oldest wine I have that I would proffer with complete confidence is a 1959 Yquem.
However, the provenance, subsequent impeccable storage, and fill of the La Tache magnum is very reassuring, despite the overall year being a mite spotty for burgundy. The problem is: what will the occasion be?

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1959 dYquem, magnificent. Funny it was the first great sauterne I ever had and none ever matched it even the '67 (on many tries, it was $19.99).

Next BA my place in SF? SY, Jan, JC? My daughter and I make a good team at the stove. SY will testify that I can provide some decent food.
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Old 17th November 2012, 01:30 PM   #2103
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So, I thought I would get something made in countries or by makers no longer around -- Like 7 star rated Metaxa from Greece :-)
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7 star and Metaxa are still around,
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Mr. Marsh, for a few of us, idea(l)s never cease to “be around” .

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I once drank a DRC 1964 Richebourg by myself at one sitting. Too much --- I got toxic. A magnum of old burgundy needs at least four seasoned drinkers. And just the right, relatively neutral, but wonderful food.
Don't remind me of wasted youth. When I lived with folks in the trade, one Saturday four of us finished off and entire case of samples.
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Next BA my place in SF? SY, Jan, JC? My daughter and I make a good team at the stove. SY will testify that I can provide some decent food.
I can confirm that's true and I'll be there next year. Perhaps I can lend a hand in the kitchen? Just to tweak Brad a bit, I do have some magnums of '95 Belle Helene...
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[QUOTE=SY;3245101]I can confirm that's true and I'll be there next year. Perhaps I can lend a hand in the kitchen? QUOTE]

Yes, yes, and we have gas there and a big smoker barbie as well.
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I hope by then I will be able to afford to have moved into a more secure place. At the moment I don't dare leave the premises for all that long, without a really trustworthy housesitter. So I don't get out much, and then not for even a full day.

When I moved here I was comforted by the proximity to the manager, and the appearance of relative poverty. It worked for a while, indeed many years. But some people are getting more desperate
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1959 dYquem, magnificent. Funny it was the first great sauterne I ever had and none ever matched it even the '67 (on many tries, it was $19.99).
Yes I had the 59 once before and it was by far the finest sticky wine ever. Broadbent thought it worth six stars, one over his maximum. The only other wine I noticed in his book that he felt warranted his blowing the maximum was the 1945 La Tache. I shared both of those with two friends circa 1982. One of them still remembers it, the other is dead.

With three others I drank a 67 Yquem far too young, really infanticide. Preceding it iirc: 1970 Louis Latour Corton-Charlemagne "Ancien Domaine des Comtes de Grancey", a 1953 Leoville-Barton, and a magnum of 1947 Volnay Clos de Chenes. The Corton-Charlemagne was so good I almost sent everyone home with their contributions so I could drink it all myself

Kathy hopes to drink her 67 half-bottle with me someday. Once again we're looking for an occasion. And a quarter-bottle of Sauternes is still a lot.
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probably the only really great wine i've tasted was awhile back - probably was expensive then and more so if anyone has one left is a 1995 DRC la tache in bangkok at the Oriental Hotel when I was treated to several days there (@3K/day). [the place came with a butler, no less] Its nice to be spoiled... if not by others, then yourself.

Got recommendations for low/medium-end wines - red or whites?

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