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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Silicon Valley
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The Absolute Sound, Feb 2012, ran a review of this equipment and an interview with its designer, both pieces written by Robert Harley. The key paragraphs IMHO of Harley's review are on page 92
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To my shock and surprise, the simpler version of QOL is nothing less, and nothing more, than pair of equations. These can be implemented with simple opamp-and-resistor circuitry:
Maybe, just maybe, it really does produce all the wonderful sonic goodness that Robert Harley describes. But I have my doubts whether the USPTO can issue a patent for it; there is a fair amount of prior art! Last edited by transistormarkj; 18th February 2012 at 01:57 AM. |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California
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Here is an interesting article comparing the BSG QOL to the
Rupert Neve Portico 5014 Stereo Field Editor. Stereo Field Processing |
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Join Date: May 2007
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So in its simplest form it is just a stereo field widener, as used on some cheap small 'stereo' radios for years? I am surprised that such triviality can be patented, even in America.
The 'correct' amount of widening would depend on speakers, room, and the microphone techniques used for the recording. Fixing it at the golden ratio is probably just meant to impress the gullible. |
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Patent downloads are free, and the documents are public domain. So no need to be "skeered." These are applications, not granted patents, so IF anything is granted, it may look quite a bit different than the application! The only "novelty" to the claims is that the crossfeed ratio equals the "golden ratio," within 10%, marking this as total nonsense. It's not even novel, since most crossfeed circuits were continuously adjustable, with one knob setting equaling 1.618...
I'm tempted to risk the wrath of Ed Simon by slagging yet another reviewer who doesn't bother doing even the slightest due diligence. If you're intrigued by this old-fashioned effects box, it could be assembled for a few dollars by even a novice. There's a ridiculous amount of prior art, so not much worry that you'll get sued. ![]() I would have attached the application for general amusement, but it was slightly too large. It can be downloaded here: Patent US20110158413 - APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR A COMPLETE AUDIO SIGNAL - Google Patents PDF download button on upper right.
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Eastern Pennsylvania
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Agreed. It appears to be a somewhat more complicated than usual inter-aural crosstalk cancellation circuit. IACC circuits have been around at least since the late 70's. Some old commercial examples include Carver's 'Sonic Holography' preamp based circuit, and Polk's 'SDA' loudspeaker based passive implementation.
While I certainly haven't worked my way through the QOL circuit operation details, I suspect that the delayed mixing of signals it employs will result in comb filtering effects. Whatever percieved benefits it may deliver, it is greatly altering the channel signals. While the proof of the pudding is in the the tast..., er, listening, this does appear to be a variation on a long established technique now generally regarded as a gimmick. Commercially, particularly with its $4,000 price, I would think it will run afoul of the 'signal purity' ethos of the high-end.
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Silicon Valley
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Patent Application US20110158413 - APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR A COMPLETE AUDIO SIGNAL - Google Patents Patent Application US20110064230 - PHASE LAYERING APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR A COMPLETE AUDIO SIGNAL - Google Patents The interview with BSG Technologies' founder, Barry Stephen Goldfarb, in The Absolute Sound, is quite a rollicking tale. He comes right out and says, I'm a musician not an engineer, I "designed" this by tinkering around. The idea came to me one day long ago when I was assembling a many-drivers loudspeaker, and accidentally wired one of the drivers backwards (out of phase). But the "wrong" arrangement sounded better! Eureka. |
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Actually, you can download for free at USPTO (it takes a plugin to get it in pdf), but for whatever reason, their website was screwed up this morning so I could access it. You can also read the file wrappers, which can be quite entertaining. Use www.pat2pdf.org for the plugin.
Why am I not surprised at the back story?
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