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Old 21st January 2012, 03:55 AM   #1
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Default Cotton OCC 5N Silver Interconnect Cables

Based on the VH Audio's design, I made a pair of the OCC 5N 28 awg solid core silver cables last week. The results are amazing: open sound stage, airy, focused images and very detailed. I can hear more weak music tones and can now define the "distance between layers of music". They beat my 3 other diy solid core silver rca cables.

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What I'm going to do next? I'll re-do those cables which were twisted conductors in design
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Old 21st January 2012, 12:08 PM   #2
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I wonder if the added inductance provides a more effective vhf filter?
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Old 22nd January 2012, 12:01 AM   #3
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Hi Andrew,

Could you please explain a little bit more about effective vhf filter? Thanks.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 12:38 AM   #4
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what happens when the humidity changes?

water is highly polar, relative pemtivitivy ~ 80

even polystyrene dielectic loss increases ~10x with its miniscule <0.1% equilibrium water absorbtion

quick search finds: "Cotton can absorb about 25 times its weight in water"

although only the 1st 5-6 % of water molecules by wt % are bound directly to the cellulose free hydroxyl groups

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inductance of cable pair = L
Capacitance at the receiver = C
2pole passive filter = LC
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Old 22nd January 2012, 08:59 AM   #6
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What about no shielding?
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:13 AM   #7
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Audiophiles will argue for years about what interconnects to use.

I use decent Nakamichi Gold RCA connectors with RG58 Satellite Co-Ax and the sound is wonderfully transparent, clear, and with a good sound stage.

I eventually sold my pair of Chord Chorus interconnects because the RCA connectors weren't maintaining a good connection with the RCA sockets on my equipment.

The satellite RG58 cable is double shielded and good for 600MHz it does a brilliant job at Audio Frequencies.

I'm sure loads of you will disagree.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:19 AM   #8
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I just worry that the construction shown is niether shielded or twisted pairs, basicly they form a dipole structure, not very good in areas of high rf pollution, ie any city town etc.
I had a reel of RG58 used it for everything, as I had 100m of the stuff, also used F connectors for it as I still have hundreds of the things...great all rounder.

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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:28 AM   #9
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just use ribbons folks they're plain better

Some 3 mm x 0,05 mm silver foils are good for interconnects.

For speaker cable, use 30mm x 0,05 silver or 0,07 copper to maintain a good cross section, with no thickness at all. Commonly found in ribbons chokes. Esay source of material for the diyer.

Ribbons will have to be tight wound in order not to vibrate. Use pfte strip aznd an assistant to do this

Don't forget low metal mass connectors, silver lead free soldered

At least Allen Wright showed us the way

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just use ribbons folks they're plain better

Some 3 mm x 0,05 mm silver foils are good for interconnects.

For speaker cable, use 30mm x 0,05 silver or 0,07 copper to maintain a good cross section, with no thickness at all. Commonly found in ribbons chokes. Esay source of material for the diyer.

Ribbons will have to be tight wound in order not to vibrate. Use pfte strip aznd an assistant to do this

Don't forget low metal mass connectors, silver lead free soldered

At least Allen Wright showed us the way

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"Commonly found in ribbons chokes."

What are these and where are they to be found?


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