Help With Crossover 3-Way Seas 9.1 Home Theater

[2MuchRiceMakesMeSick]

Hello I am using these the SEAS TJL3W kit designed by Troles.
I have already ordered the 30 drivers required for this design. Now I am about to order the crossover.

I would like to get the expert opinion of this forum on the following items by SOLEN.

Feedback on this, good/bad is greatly appreciated!

10 S20.16 .10 mH 0.8 10x19x38 Canada 2.34 EACH 23.40
10 S20.16 .15 mH 0.8 10x19x38 Canada 2.34 EACH 23.40
10 S18.33 .33 mH 1.0 13x25x51 Canada 5.00 EACH 50.00
10 S18.47 .47 mH 1.0 13x25x51 Canada 5.74 EACH 57.40
10 S18.68 .68 mH 1.0 14x29x57 Canada 6.75 EACH 67.50
10 S141.8 1.8 mH 1.6 22x45x89 Canada 28.24 EACH 282.40
10 S142.2 2.2 mH 1.6 22x45x89 Canada 31.84 EACH 318.40
10 S184.7 4.7 mH 1.0 19x38x76 Canada 17.33 EACH 173.30
10 PB150 1.5 mfd 400v 14x25 France 2.42 EACH 24.20
10 PB220 2.2 mfd 400v 17x25 France 2.82 EACH 28.20
10 PB330 3.3 mfd 400v 17x33 France 3.07 EACH 30.70
30 PB470 4.7 mfd 400v 20x33 France 3.57 EACH 107.10
30 PB1000 10 mfd 400v 26x38 France 6.32 EACH 189.60
30 PB2200 22 mfd 400v 34x45 France 8.68 EACH 260.40
10 PB4700 47 mfd 400v 44x60 France 17.21 EACH 172.10
10 MO1000J1R0 1.0 Ohms 10 W Taiwan 0.74 EACH 7.40
10 MO1000J2R2 2.2 Ohms 10 W Taiwan 0.74 EACH 7.40
10 MO1000J3R9 3.9 Ohms 10 W Taiwan 0.74 EACH 7.40
20 MO1000J4R7 4.7 Ohms 10 W Taiwan 0.74 EACH 14.80
10 MO1000J15R 15 Ohms 10 W Taiwan 0.68 EACH 6.80

[rob g]

are you putting these in external boxes or in the cabinets?

If they are going in the cab's check the sizes against the original cap values.

[2MuchRiceMakesMeSick]

I can decide that when I receive the parts. I will probably build them on the back panel of the box. The quality is as good or better then Troles used? Would you change anything?

[rob g]

Personally I have not gone beyond Solen. The odd Black Gate in valve amp's but nothing too expensive. I try to give the Voodoo side a wide berth for sanity and wallet.
Pluto had to be built with ultra tight 1% tolerance components but that was for fairly obvious technical reasons (lacking advanced testing facilities) not ultra picky audiophile-nervosa.

[2MuchRiceMakesMeSick]

does it really make a difference?

[picowallspeaker]

OMG !!
I tought that the price was Per Piece , so I was thinking that you were another
one to blow money on copper or exotic (pricey ) caps .
Then I realized they were the summation of each kind ...
So it's ok ...altough I've been reading a report on a Forum about a guy who spent about 2000 $ in re-making a pair of crossovers for some Dynaudio speakers , using the best of the best , and he was reporting the nuances in hearing from Obbligato to Mundorf Supreme or something , on the mid and tweeters , not to mention the flat wire in inductors that would totally blow and make a new era in bass reproduction .
( I'm happy with my 0.5 $ cap on the tw )
maybe a Mundorf , which is said to be the best , in series with tweeter and also mid .
In that descripion , Solen caps are more or less like electrolytics , in the usual comparison we make on the Forum .

[2MuchRiceMakesMeSick]

the price is so high for these crossovers (around 2k) maybe its worth looking into an active system? What are some good brands that have this capability? I assume its done at the preamp level.

[rob g]

Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

the price is so high for these crossovers (around 2k) maybe its worth looking into an active system? What are some good brands that have this capability? I assume its done at the preamp level.

Active crossovers will cost you more and your speakers do not have ready made crossover designs for this. For active operation you need an amp for every drive unit, not just every speaker.

Per speaker/channel the Preamp output goes into the active equalized crossover which splits the treble and mid/bass or mid and bass output directly into each amp. The amp's are then connected directly to the drive units with no passive components in the signal path (other than a short run of cable). Two Amp's for a two way design, three amp's for a three way and so on.

While active can have serious benefits you should not consider going active with this system.

[rob g]

Keep it passive, keep to the design, you will have enough on your plate already.
Use poly cap's where you can afford it, especially in the treble section with small value cap's.

[2MuchRiceMakesMeSick]

Originally Posted by rob g

Keep it passive, keep to the design, you will have enough on your plate already.
Use poly cap's where you can afford it, especially in the treble section with small value cap's.

I cant tell if thats a poly cap or not. This is the first of the caps --> Solen Electronique Inc.