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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: D-55629 Schwarzerden
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http://www.accuphase.com/cat/e-250_e.pdf I read: How AAVA-II works: AAVA-II operates by feeding the music signal to a V-I (volt- age - current) converting amplifi er where it is weighted in 16 steps [1/2, 1/22, ..., 1/215, 1/216]. The 16 current steps are turned on or off by 16 current switches, and the combina- tion of switch settings determines the overall volume. The switching operation is controlled by a CPU according to the position of the volume control knob. The combined signal current forms a variable gain circuit that adjusts the volume. Finally, the combined current is converted back into a music signal voltage by an I-V (current - voltage) converter. Are there any experiences from this kind of a level attenuator without any resistors in the signal path? Last edited by tiefbassuebertr; 15th June 2011 at 02:15 PM. |
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Join Date: May 2007
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This whole complicated circuit (well, more complicated than two resistors anyway) contains no resistors? Does it use switched capacitors instead? Or are we to believe that a whole set of p-n junctions can be matched so accurately that the outcome is more linear than a resistor? Is not a current switch a resistor, of sorts?
This sounds like more straining at gnats and swallowing camels! |
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Switzerland
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A digtally controlled attenuator. There are a couple of chips that do the same. Not sure if this is realized in discrete form or if it is on an IC.
Of course the music signals flows still through resistors, as with any gain control chip or any relay controlled attenuator. I respect Accuphase very much, but I don't see the big advantage of this, compared to other simple, established solutions. |
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If they sent the signal down the interconnects as current and THEN went back to voltage it would make more sense as it would be nearly impervious to EMI RFI which is turned into voltage in the cables anyway. Like CAST from Krell.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Moonee Ponds, Vic, Australia
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Might this be the patent?
JP 2004104269 SIGNAL SWITCH AND VARIABLE GAIN AMPLIFIER PROVIDED WITH THE SAME Quote:
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: at Home
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This is interesting approach, but I think it's too complicated for volume control. Maybe it's really as good as they claim, but it's very bulky and expensive.So this is for some rich audiophils, wich don't know what to do with their money.
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I've looked at this before and think this type of volume control is really interesting, I would love to make one. If someone gave me a schematic I would design a PCB.
I like it because: - it's so precise compared to everything else - lower distortion than PGA2310 etc - Simple concept - No click sounds. Pretty much all relay volume controls click when all relays flip (like at step 64/128 etc) There is some more info here on page 2: http://www.axissaudio.com/pdfs/C-2400.pdf Mark Levinson use the same concept too: http://www.marklevinson.com/image_library/32AB_lo.jpg bbp built one a while back. He used DG413 analog switches but these days there are better ones like DG611 or ADG1221. He also measured he version and achieved higher specs than the PGA. Here are his threads: Solid State Volume controls Ultra high precision digital control attenuator Promotion: Hi-end Volume Control Module,Ultimate Attenuator for Audio |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Kraków
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I was thinking about designing something similiar, but have no time currently. Electric circuit seems not to be a big deal. More interesting is interfacing switches to volume know. I was thinking about absolute one turn encoder and some simple uC, like 8051. Is this a correct idea? Or anyone has more simple way to do it?
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You are on the right track. Personally I would use an arduino and a standard encoder since there is a much bigger range available as opposed to absolute encoders.
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