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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Hi Guys!
I have been browsing this forum several times and found many useful tips, hints and knowledge. ![]() Now it's time for my first post, my question is simple for the experienced users here I think. It's a simple microphone preamp but I want to make it as good as possible so I'm open to all suggestions regarding improvement of the circuit. So far it looks like this: ![]() Oh, and don't mind my crappy drawing please
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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the left hand half of the LTP is trying to drive zero impedance.
-IN is a virtual earth. You must set up the opamp as a balanced input opamp with gain set by the 4 resistors not the two you have shown. For the LTP to present a balanced load to the mic, the load on the LTP must also be balanced. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Download LTSpice and put your circuit in and play around a bit. There are a lot of strange things going on - I doubt it will work as it stands.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana USA
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Boy this is way complicated for 2011. Op amps are so fast and quiet now I think you could replace all the discrete transistor stuff with a differential input stage of 1/2 of your output amp. The output op amp stage looks okay. 5532's are okay but ST33078 or JRC4560 or (4562 looks better but I haven't tried it) are quieter and faster. This schematic may just do you fine. diy dj mixer The second drawing is the mike input parts. Make sure PS is locally bypassed (3 cm or closer) by .1 uf disk caps and the feedback on every stage has a 20 pf cap around it, to prevent oscillation, because these new op amps are really fast. Cheap, though, $.60. The commercial mixers I've seen on here use 4558 amps which are way noisier than these new ones but require no disc caps, so they save money at every socket.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
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@indianajo
I wanted my input stage as noise-free as possible thus the non-ic approach. I also know that there are chips that contain similar circuits but I designed it around parts that are already in my shelves. The 5532 might be an old chip but TI still uses it's circuitry in some of their latest audio-IC's, many commercial designs still use it, so I think it's absolutely sufficient here. But let's not get into another op-amp discussion. ![]() Anyhow, thanks alot for your input! Regarding your Link: Mr. Elliott has a very similar design on his website, surprise! ![]()
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana USA
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Please do us a favor, build this discrete unit then try the link design with two halves of a 4562, see which is quieter. My 33078 upgraded disco mixer is near the performance of my legendary PAS2 tube preamp, which has been upgraded with new metal film resistors over 100k and new plastic film caps. The disco mixer has a tiny bit more hum, but hum is the enclosure's fault, probably, not the op amps. (Has a stainless steel front panel not keeping out magnetic fields).
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torpoint
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Stainless steel should keep out magnetic fields. It is only steel with a bit of chromium added.
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Join Date: May 2010
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Many grades of stainless steel are magnetic. It is when nickel is added (generally higher grades) that it becomes non-magnetic.
With that said, magnetism is probably not causing the hum. That is most likely grounding. |
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