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I have been using passive pre-amp in my listening environment. Since the volume pot is 50 kA, it can cause undesirable high-freq roll off for my 498xx based power amp (input 33k//470p). I finally made a unity gain pre-amp (buffer). It is just a quick project where an old spare PCB is used to populate the opamp circuit. The board was designed for signal conditioning with Linear active filter chips. The 50 kA pot is followed by two OPA134 as unit-gain buffers. Additional output RCA sockets are added for driving bi-amp. Regulated +/- 15 V supply is from a separate supply chassis. LM317/337 and some caps form the simple supply. Everything just work great! No noise (hiss and hum) can be heard from the speaker with the pre-amp input grounded.
I will modify it slightly for some gain no greater than 10. I think this is very sufficient for today digital sources. |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: North Carolina
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Kind regards, Anand. |
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Thank you Anand!
My buffer pre-amp shown in thread #1 is borrowed to a friend for listening evaluation. I use the TI opamp universal test board (fixture) to build another pre-amp. LME49720 is soldered to the board as the first test unit. The chip is still configured as a voltage-follower. A cancellation resistor is inserted between output and -IN. A 50 kA volume pot is followed by the opamp. Hence, the source resistance of the opamp is not a fixed value. A fixed cancellation resistor won't offer maximum cancellation for different pot positions. Let see the THD vs freq for cancellation resistor equal to 1 k. The output level was kept at 3 Vrms in order to maintain signal to noise ratio. Output load is the AP input 100 k resistance. The curve for Rs = 0 is essentially the AP's THD vs freq. Other plot is for cancellation resistor equal to 16 k. We can see that this is over kill! The distortion is worst for Rs = 0. Maximum (lowest distortion) cancellation occurs at Rs = 16.8 k. Well, Rs is nearly identical to the cancellation resistance. Based on the plots, a 1 k cancellation resistor offers better performance. Taking listening level into account, 16 k is probably the choice. I will try 10 k next. Last edited by panson_hk; 31st August 2010 at 05:02 AM. |
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The plot is for a cancellation resistor equal to 12 k. It sees this is a better value compared to the previous 1 k and 16 k. We have maximum (complete?) cancellation for the first three Rs values.
The test fixture is shown as well. Last edited by panson_hk; 31st August 2010 at 05:18 AM. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Wounderfull result ! what a little resistor can do !
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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The LME series is superb in supressing common mode distortion. I asume your OPA134 version whould show much bigger differences.
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The plots for 1 k, 6 k and 12 k cancellation resistor are shown below. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Very interesting measurements. Proves the concept and gives results with higher source impedance. Did you compare the sound with and without the resistor ?
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