John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

[simon7000]

Originally Posted by Steve Eddy

What's wrong with furrin cars?



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Steve

It is an old problem, covering everything with sound absorption just makes a space too dead for good sound. Because the absorption drops off as the sound wavelengths get longer you get a boomy mushy sound.

A good sounding space will have well dispersed absorption in moderation.

Perhaps most importantly a real audiophile would never go for the fake stuff and if the real stuff got wet, that would become smell-o-vision. And there are few things real audiophiles look down upon more than audio for video systems.

E.S.

P.S. I am getting too bored it is inventory counting week.

[simon7000]

Old Audio Joke:

Dr Bose meets Paul Klipsch in an airport. He cups his hands to form a horn and says "Hi, Paul how are you?" Paul Klipsch turns around to face the wall and replies "Just fine Amar, thanks for asking, and you?"

[Steve Eddy]

Originally Posted by simon7000

P.S. I am getting too bored it is inventory counting week.

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[johnferrier]

"The Klipschorn is the only speaker in the world that has been in continuous production, relatively unchanged, for over 60 years." wiki




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[janneman]

Originally Posted by simon7000

[snip]P.S. I am getting too bored it is inventory counting week.

Well, at least counting those ICs is a breeze

jan didden

[john curl]

And BOTH are right, Ed!

[anatech]

Hi John,
Go ahead and teach. Just leave personal comments out of it.

The fact that you interacted with him in 1965 doesn't mean you really do know what the man was thinking. The fact that you identified the speakers as cheap and stiff coned shows you are not aware of what the product is like. If you want to throw stones, just look at all the other speakers sold in 1965. I'm sure that they have all changed, strongly for the better. What were your designs like in 1965? I'll bet pretty bad compared to your current work. Point made?

I have a wall of various boxed Klipsch drivers that I'll use here and there. Most of them have modern cone materials and compliant suspensions. The later products are largely bass reflex, but the older products that are still similar to the original plans are the variety you described. But then these are very old designs. The boxes suit the drivers, and isn't that what matters?

So, do you want to knock one line and it's designer, or are you going to talk about the subject of horn loaded designs? There is a difference between the two.

Attack the idea, not the person. Chris

[john curl]

Measure their THROW! Compare it with a JBL pro loudspeaker. Then we can talk together. Personally, I defended Paul Klipsch for more than a decade after John Meyer completely dissed him. In fact, I had a photo of Paul Klipsch in my office in Switzerland in 1974-5, with 'MY HERO!' written underneath. This was to offset John Meyer, who was on the other side of the argument. I kept my Klipsch's until 1980, when I sold them to good friend at cost. Even today, the very same K-horns are owned by my business partner, and available to me on occasion, to try, and I do.

[john curl]

By the way, I haven't gotten to 1980 yet, and I am not sure if I can.

[john curl]

For the record, I found, after almost 1 year of A-B preference tests, that I preferred a small direct radiator loudspeaker with a sub-woofer, in preference to K-horns, in a smallish room, typical of an apartment. This is when I switched to Rogers LS3-5A's and sub-woofers. Later, after other small 2 way speakers + sub, I settled with WATT's with a sub, and that is what I use today.