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Old 19th September 2009, 09:08 PM   #31
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Good luck Hugh. You really do deserve this.
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Old 28th November 2009, 08:50 AM   #32
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Hugh, congratulations on this dedicated AKSA forum. I've always felt you deserve this!!

OT: see people were touching on climate change etc. Here's an interesting couple of links..

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Old 18th January 2010, 05:23 PM   #33
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Old 31st January 2010, 12:37 AM   #34
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Leo? Ah, no, we cannot deny him his opinions, smelly though they be. As you know, like you I'm most interested in SS, but I was enraged when I read his withering editorial about tube amplifiers. No one has the right to pour derision upon the choices of others just because they have a different opinion; the facts speak otherwise, there are many who would never deviate from their thermionic choice and good luck to them. Intolerance in any form, particularly from an influential soapbox like the editor's chair of Silicon Chip, is not on, and aside from being morally wrong is actually indefensible factually. The man is plain wrong, THD does NOT fully define the sound of an amp, and good tube amps can sound sublime. Just silliness really.
Philosophically, this is known a relativism, ie, where everyone's opinion is valid. Relativism is dangerous, absurd and indefensible.
Unless there are objective measures, everything is equal and that is clearly untrue. I'm with Leo and he has a right to be derisive of the unsustainable.

Human beings actively engage in self-deception and this thread is full of it. The following post illustrates this beautifully;
"It is the very harmonic coloration of tubes which people enjoy, and which in the hands of a good designer can be manipulated to produce something truly musical and soulful."

Science is defined by objectivity. Valves are objectively far below the accuracy of reproduction SS offers. At least be honest to say that you prefer distorted sound.

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Old 6th February 2010, 03:14 AM   #35
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Valves are objectively far below the accuracy of reproduction SS offers.

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Frank, congratulations on your objectively untrue statement!!!

If you look through historical reference material, journal published designs, and the internet you will find that there have been many valve circuits designed that have low objective distortion. Likewise many SS circuits with higher distortion.

Look here for a recently published low distortion valve amp http://www.audioamateurinc.com/digital/ax210/. The real position seems to be that both good and bad circuits can be constructed from both valves and solid state.

Any argument about which is 'best' is likely to tell you nothing about the technology, but a great deal about the mentality of those in the argument!!!

Be happy, enjoy the music, enjoy the hobby.

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Old 6th February 2010, 03:59 AM   #36
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Jen,
As a general rule, and as you fully appreciate, SS designs have, on the whole, lower distortion of all types than valve designs. I can't argue that what you have said is incorrect but, generally, it isn't reflective of the vast majority of designs.
What is true is that most people like valves because they are not as accurate as SS and introduce their colouration to the sound.

(Geez, arguing with a pedantic, relativist isn't easy.)

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Old 6th February 2010, 10:33 AM   #37
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Hi Franec,
I prefer the logic and reasoning present by Jen, It presents the variable nature of the technologies and the listener/testers.
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Old 6th February 2010, 02:54 PM   #38
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Default Thanks Hugh!

Hi Hugh,

Congratulations on your own forum, it's certainly well-deserved... It does present me with a quandary, where should I post any further AKSA driven projects?

My “reference” system at the moment consists of your Lifeforce Amplifier, combined with a Philips / AudioNote CD player. The loudspeakers are a Fostex-Peerless-2-way, with a pair of Full Range ESLs in the works.

After owning top of the line “commercial” amplifiers I was, and still am to this day, blown away by the sonic qualities of your Amplifier as well as of course the service provided by you whilst building it.

I see you’re already the involuntary host of technical debates… just the way you like it!

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Old 6th February 2010, 03:29 PM   #39
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Hello Major,

Congrats for exclusive AKSA Forum

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Old 7th February 2010, 09:24 PM   #40
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Hi Franec (sic),
I prefer the logic and reasoning present by Jen, It presents the variable nature of the technologies and the listener/testers.
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Any argument about which is 'best' is likely to tell you nothing about the technology, but a great deal about the mentality of those in the argument!!!
Be happy, enjoy the music, enjoy the hobby.
What is does tell me is that what I first said is true, except people don't like it when it is pointed out.
Valve amps are, in general, inferior to SS but when designed in a particular way, produce a sound that some people prefer. At least Hugh was honest in saying so.
On other hand, I haven't built active 3 way speakers only to introduce a form of distortion that I like. If a CD is badly produced or the music is poorly played or is discordant, I will hear it; conversely, a good CD is an absolute joy.

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