Sound Quality Vs. Measurements

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Binaural works great for radio playes over headphone but not so good with music over speakers. Chesky tried to make it work over speakers but i did not get the same effect.
Q-Sound works for me, for example " Amused to Death ".
I hear the dog barking OUTSIDE of my house in the jard.
The horse carriage comes from left front in my direction, then behind my head and out of the house on the right backside.
That only works with good speakers setup well so me an Allen have used that track many times on shows for setting up the speakers.
Brian Eno seems to care more about the sound then many others.
Roxy Music, Avalon is great too.
Nigel, i did a lot of open baffles over the last years, see my MPL thread.
I also have build a Linkwitz LX type but that is complicated, 4 way active with DSP.
Still working on the tuning.
 
Maggies IMO lack dynamics , even the big ones , the 57 does much better especially when stacked. Currently Evaluating a toob pre prototype from a friend so playing mostly digital again until his phono stage is ready , really nice sounding unit , well after some tooob rolling , very quite , but since i have low sensitivity speakers hard to tell how much , good dynamics , really pleased with what its doing. With what i have experienced this last few weeks if not tooob Rolling You have'nt really heard your Pre ...

What a difference some Tooobs make .. :)

Playing Telarc stuff this morning :

Elgar
Symphony no 1
pomp and circumstance
TELARC

Haydn
The creation
TELARC
 

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This is one of the "miracles" that can happen, :) - it's a good party trick, :D, and serves to demonstrate what is crucial, and what is of lesser importance ...

It was the $2 drivers in the door styrene OB's ($4 for the pair), before all the new drivers arrived, and I was tinkering with the amp sitting on the floor between the panels and I looked up at the speakers and the instruments were to my far left, far right, and above my head.

I said out loud:
'"All that and I spent $8. Wow."

I had dialed in the angle and listening position, the panels distance from back wall and side wall had been optimised using a spreadsheet for baffle diffraction. They sounded as good as they would ever sound, for $2 a piece...
 
I use this one ( a 45 RPM ) to test the overload margin of my phono amps.
Measured inside the phono amp this hits the highest amplitude on a fast scope i ever measured, ticks and pops non withstanding. That is another problem, recovery from overload. Best it never happens. Tubes are great at that so are input transformers.
I know Waine and JC, you hate them.
 

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Nice on paper, Joachim, but it seems to be an odd choice. Here we are, busting our behinds to use as little as we can in the direct signal path so as to corrupt the signal as little as possible, and then we throw in a damn transformer? Which does not saturate and has zero personal sound imprint?

Please, with all due respect to McIntosh, but I think that was one of their dumber ideas, I expect they want to remember their tube days.
 
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Maggies IMO lack dynamics , even the big ones , the 57 does much better especially when stacked. Currently Evaluating a toob pre prototype from a friend so playing mostly digital again until his phono stage is ready , really nice sounding unit , well after some tooob rolling , very quite , but since i have low sensitivity speakers hard to tell how much , good dynamics , really pleased with what its doing. With what i have experienced this last few weeks if not tooob Rolling You have'nt really heard your Pre ...

What a difference some Tooobs make .. :)

Playing Telarc stuff this morning :

Elgar
Symphony no 1
pomp and circumstance
TELARC

Haydn
The creation
TELARC

I've had both and would tend to say the other way around. The Quads give up just as it gets interesting . The thing you say might be this darkness Joachim said about . I rather like that. The OB speakers eat both Quads and the Maggies for breakfast in terms of verve and retain the no box sound. They are slightly coloured as a downside.

Don't buy stacked Quads without trying baffle extensions on a single. That's most of what is happening ( more baffle area ) . Also less chance for alignment errors. The thing Maggies and Quads fail on is a ridiculously small listening window.
 
With all Due respect Nige , i don't think you have heard what 57's can do , stacked 57's play louder and bigger than even 20.1's single 57 will match 3.7 in a reasonable room. These are of course updated and refresh 57's , they have much better dynamics than maggies , but you do need good amplification to get them extended...

We have tried them single with extensions, double, triple and well Quads, the drive a triple has is amazing, but it is not as pull in musical as a single...

Developed a amplified/Remote subwoofer 15 yrs ago for the 57, excellent integration same for 63, amplifier was made in Germany , cant get them anymore, everything China now..
 
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My friend Martina did say I get a sound from them which is not typical. The weird bit is bass a plenty and with bass detail that is hard to believe.

The best stacked 57's I heard was a Nasa scientists system his dad owned. It was driven by a Heath EL 84 amp. When asked to comment I said it was scary. Frank Sinatra not dead and a prisoner in the room. The source Denon top CD player and Garrard 301 with Schroeder arm. How 20 watts could do that I will never know.
 
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I do not hear Mc.Intosh amps often so i can not commend on the sound.
They are hugely popular though in germany maybe because of the looks.
That is the typical " i saw that as a student and now i can afford it " effect.
Maybe everybody has a child inside somewhere.
I had a HQD system. Double Quad 57, kelly ribbon without horn, Hartley bass.
That was an active system with Levinson crossover.
I think i crossed the bass active and the tweeters passive.
That is over 30years ago. Filtering the Quads in the bass makes them play louder.
I could not afford Levinson amps so i used Treshold. Had a Oracle turntable. That system looked the business.
 
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