This is the best I've ever heard.
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I will drink to that .
It seems likely a speaker will be open baffle if the very best . If a sub woofer is used it comes in low and will be a pair . Celestion had a great design .
As said before I use SMGa's . They never say to me why bother listening to this . We always joked that the true Audiophile has six records as they are the only ones good enough for the system . Usually obscure jazz . Jimmy Hugues said something I agree with . When you truly improve a hi fi system you no longer get up to take the record off when the track you don't so much like is playing . When truly working well you leave it on as if a radio . Great speakers allow that .
My friend Ijaz had Quad ESL 63 and Marantz model 9 amplifier . The covers were removed . In most ways they are the best I every heard . I have not especially liked the 63's in the past . Strangely a very cheap Yamaha amp was very OK with them ( 2 x 80 watts ) in another system . The 63's were a gift to a friend who had very little money to spend . We never found a CD to match . A Rega P3 being fine as a prime source . All done on a $1000 budget . It was a rather nice system which possibly was better than the Quad 405 attempting the same . The Rega wasn't good enough . It was good enough to enjoy and that is all that matters .
One very good friend who mostly listened to heavy classics admitted to using Doris Day records as a critical test . He was a very proud man so sharing this was not easy for him . One day he let me join in to listen . I totally understood why he did that . Not unlike the opera he loved in what it required . Dusty Springfield is a difficult test . The production that seems so alive on radio seldom sounds real on hi fi . Very processed is my guess . Doris Day easier than Dusty .
It seems likely a speaker will be open baffle if the very best . If a sub woofer is used it comes in low and will be a pair . Celestion had a great design .
As said before I use SMGa's . They never say to me why bother listening to this . We always joked that the true Audiophile has six records as they are the only ones good enough for the system . Usually obscure jazz . Jimmy Hugues said something I agree with . When you truly improve a hi fi system you no longer get up to take the record off when the track you don't so much like is playing . When truly working well you leave it on as if a radio . Great speakers allow that .
My friend Ijaz had Quad ESL 63 and Marantz model 9 amplifier . The covers were removed . In most ways they are the best I every heard . I have not especially liked the 63's in the past . Strangely a very cheap Yamaha amp was very OK with them ( 2 x 80 watts ) in another system . The 63's were a gift to a friend who had very little money to spend . We never found a CD to match . A Rega P3 being fine as a prime source . All done on a $1000 budget . It was a rather nice system which possibly was better than the Quad 405 attempting the same . The Rega wasn't good enough . It was good enough to enjoy and that is all that matters .
One very good friend who mostly listened to heavy classics admitted to using Doris Day records as a critical test . He was a very proud man so sharing this was not easy for him . One day he let me join in to listen . I totally understood why he did that . Not unlike the opera he loved in what it required . Dusty Springfield is a difficult test . The production that seems so alive on radio seldom sounds real on hi fi . Very processed is my guess . Doris Day easier than Dusty .
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I have heard both , extensively , the Duntech, is not in the same league, aside, i do agree with you about size ...
You're friends with Gary..? Great guy, he has improved the line since Nudell , i have a few Nudell stories , one day ..
Nigel the 63's are the better speaker , As PW said , there would be no 57 if he started with the 63's ...
Same thing can be said for many things you do have to start somewhere, if my beloved Acoustat's
started with the Spectra series there would be lot's of MISSING models.
Acoustat
I worked with your beloved acoustats in the early- mid 80's , the factory was close by. I remember hearing the floor to ceiling model for the first time .
IMO Acoustats back then made the best ESL SPEAKERS , so i'm not supprised they have a following today. Personally i prefer the sound of magnetics, my preference of course ..
Ciao
IMO Acoustats back then made the best ESL SPEAKERS , so i'm not supprised they have a following today. Personally i prefer the sound of magnetics, my preference of course ..
Ciao
Had a chance to listen to some new IRS Betas back in the 90s, in a local store's basement located, treated sound room.
At the time they had about 30 - 40K$ worth of hardware connected to them.
They gave me free run and I spent over 4 hours down there, it was the most amazing setup I have ever heard.
At the time they had about 30 - 40K$ worth of hardware connected to them.
They gave me free run and I spent over 4 hours down there, it was the most amazing setup I have ever heard.
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I've audited the IRS top guns, Martin Logan Statement, Statement Evo II.
But as I have zero intention to live my life in an airplane hangar, I content myself with updated 2905's and go to a concert hall the moment it itches again.
Hi Mr Acoustat,
So bad than a coustat are difficult to find on second hand in my country, it seems to be a very solid speaker which doesn't break with time and a good bargain for the price!
Why some prefer ESL like 2905 and others really prefer managneplanar like J Atkins with the Maggies 3.7... I can't really understand why 2 grups exists with those family planars... personal flavor Taste ? one more difficult to drive ? Do the ESL just better in the mid while maggies have fantastic trebles with their rubban tweeter and solid clear bass ?
Is there a good multi cellular ESL which everybody agree for a better quality ?
So bad than a coustat are difficult to find on second hand in my country, it seems to be a very solid speaker which doesn't break with time and a good bargain for the price!
Why some prefer ESL like 2905 and others really prefer managneplanar like J Atkins with the Maggies 3.7... I can't really understand why 2 grups exists with those family planars... personal flavor Taste ? one more difficult to drive ? Do the ESL just better in the mid while maggies have fantastic trebles with their rubban tweeter and solid clear bass ?
Is there a good multi cellular ESL which everybody agree for a better quality ?
In the couple of years I spent saturdays at the best hifi shop in my old hometown I've heard plenty of brand name speakers including Proac, Sonus Faber, Wilson, Duntech, Martin Logan. The most expensive one was the Wilson Alexandria and I found it rather emotionless. I eventually ended up with the Duntech Princess which was the best commercial speaker I've heard in all that time (although the Martin Logan CLS was very smooth).
The best of all speakers has to be my own creation. Nothing else has matched the holographic soundstage that these open baffle towers create (depending on recording of course).
The best of all speakers has to be my own creation. Nothing else has matched the holographic soundstage that these open baffle towers create (depending on recording of course).
Voigt pipes are smoothest if Mass Loaded. We have a set with 4 Peerless woofers & FF85wKeN. Excellent performance, but just a bitshu of best ever,
dave
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