John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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Now to the effect of spinning a magnet above a CD. When ever you have a changing magnet field impressed upon a conductor a current will flow. This energy will become heat. If enough heat is generated this will aneal the metal.

The anealled metal surface becomes much smoother. When preparing tips for a scanning electron microscope the tips are first etched and then anealled. The before and after pictures are quite dramatic.

So there is an off the wall explanation for why gizmo may do something.


ES

Ed it would help to put even some remotely resonable numbers on this. How many Teslas and spin rate. The answer (I'm sure) is ridiculous.
 
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I understand that they have a print magazine where the article appeared. If you want to pursue it without doing the dirty work of searching, you can drop them an email (I think Peter may even be a member here). It would have been about 1990- PvW surveyed a wide range of CD tweaks, and had to do some fancy dancing at the end of the article.

I've mailed Peter, maybe he still has a copy somewhere.
 
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Amplifier driven at 60 Hz output 2 V RMS into an 8 ohm 225 W resistor in series with a fuse holder. Isolation transformer across the fuse holder into my AP.

Different fuses give different distortion. Turning fuses over in the holder changes the distortion.

Different manufacturers fuses behave a bit differently. For the most dramatic results pick fuses with uneven solder blobs at each end.

To me this is another example of how with precision you can measure differences in just about anything.

ES

How about swapping the connections to the fuse holder (soldered of course), but leaving the fuse in as-is Ed?

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That's how a lot of people think of it (i.e. that the pits and lands are effectively a direct representation of the digital audio data), particularly those who come up with various CD "tweaks," but that's not really true.

The pits and lands represent the eight-to-fourteen modulation (EFM) that the audio data is put through first (forgetting NRZI for the moment). The 16 bit words are broken up into two 8 bit blocks. Then those 8 bit blocks are translated into 14 bit blocks, and those blocks are chosen so that 1's are separated by a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 10 0's.

This requires a lookup table. So when the receiver gets the 14 bit block, it goes to the lookup table and sees what 8 bit block that 14 bit block corresponds to. Then it takes the two 8 bit blocks and puts them back together to make a 16 bit word.

And of course as you say there's a lot of other overhead going on as well. But just wanted to illustrate better that the notion of the pits and lands on the CD having any direct relationship to the actual audio data is pure fantasy.

se

Yes, but, errr, it's not pits and lands. Its long and short bumps...

jan
 
Now for a real question and answer I am sure one of you can answer for me. What I have observed is that the worst thing and only problem I have ever encountered with a cd is when it has some extremely bad scratches and can't play or just totally mis-tracks. I imagine that this causes either diffraction or refraction of the laser light source, but why can some cd players seem to play some disks like this while others can't do it at all? What differences are causing this ability for the laser to be capable or not of overcoming this situation?
 
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Now for a real question and answer I am sure one of you can answer for me. What I have observed is that the worst thing and only problem I have ever encountered with a cd is when it has some extremely bad scratches and can't play or just totally mis-tracks. I imagine that this causes either diffraction or refraction of the laser light source, but why can some cd players seem to play some disks like this while others can't do it at all? What differences are causing this ability for the laser to be capable or not of overcoming this situation?

Not 100% sure but I believe it has to do with things like capture range and loop locking in the servos. Its really a non-linear control system with a feedback loop with the same issues as any feedback loop.
Another issue may have to do with the digital side of the error correction, which depends on storage register size and thus on costs.
Am I close?

jan
 
Ed it would help to put even some remotely resonable numbers on this. How many Teslas and spin rate. The answer (I'm sure) is ridiculous.

Ridiculous, no. But just getting near such a magnet would probably wipe your credit cards. I can't do an accurate calculation without knowing more about the metal film. Just for ease using magnetic lines of force as the unit makes such calculations easy.

The other issue is rotational velocity. Get it fast enough for long enough an the CD will shatter.

The point was a mechanism could exist. But that is not what is claimed.


Jan

All part of my article on power supplies. The AC mains to the circuit breaker box all the way from the power plant has a maximum resistance of .06 ohms to comply with code requirements. So much of the power line loss is in the branch circuit, outlet, power cord and connectors, switch and fuse.

I suspect turning the fuse holder around also could be measured, but it is easier to just try different fuses. That shows a reasonable amount of variance. The lesson is to use brand name fuses that are rate for about 80% of the current when you short the power transformer secondary.

Again I am of the OPINION that if you measure at extremes you can always find something.

ES
 
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percentages and markups

This is the moment Joshua enters the room, for an official declaration that he's a totally balanced person, when it's about music.


(Did you know that folks with good linguistical skills know that 1% stands for one percent, one per cent, one per hundred. But it need not imply, that they know what 1% means in a practical sense. Characteristic of high EQ folks with a disharmonious IQ)
I know a woman, quite intelligent, who didn't know what 2% meant (thought it meant to double something, as in the practice for retailers to charge twice what they pay for an item, also known as keystoning).

There is the joke about the man in the garment industry who is successful and sends his son to school to get the education he never had. The son emerges from four years of business administration and the father turns over the business to him to run.

Months later father visits. It's clear that things are not prospering. All sorts of evidence that they are losing money. So the father questions the son about his procedures. After talking about schedules and ledgers etc. the son says And then I set the price at 10% over all of the fixed and variable costs per item.

The father goes Ah HAA! That's the problem! That's WAAAY too much markup! Two percent is plenty! It costs you a dollar, you charge two dollars!!
 
Amplifier driven at 60 Hz output 2 V RMS into an 8 ohm 225 W resistor in series with a fuse holder. Isolation transformer across the fuse holder into my AP.

Different fuses give different distortion. Turning fuses over in the holder changes the distortion.

Different manufacturers fuses behave a bit differently. For the most dramatic results pick fuses with uneven solder blobs at each end.

To me this is another example of how with precision you can measure differences in just about anything.

ES

How is it that distortion of the 60Hz AC power line matters at all, after it's been rectified and filtered?
 
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Now if you could perfect that spinning magnet that would not wipe out my card but would wipe out my bills that would be a novel invention and I bet you would have lots of customers!

I do appreciate your thorough answers to these esoteric questions about things like fuses though. I did think about the heating of the metalized film on a cd but it seemed more than far fetched that any normal audiophile tweak would ever get close to that much power!
 
Amplifier driven at 60 Hz output 2 V RMS into an 8 ohm 225 W resistor in series with a fuse holder. Isolation transformer across the fuse holder into my AP.

Ed, thanks! Fuse size? What happens when you take the fuse out and replace it same way round? What's the order of magnitude of these distortions compared to the amp distortion? Any sense of the R&R?

edit: I see Jan anticipated this as well.

edit: I think an order of magnitude calculation of the heating is pretty easy, since that's your latest hypothesis. You can assume about 5 ohms per square conductivity of the aluminum. I can get heat capacity and conductivity (i.e., diffusivity) numbers for the polycarbonate, if you like. You can plug in a WAG for the magnet strenghth- credit cards are not relevant here, their strips comprise MAGNETIC particles.
 
BTW Saw a nice concours for brass bands on the TV. Many European bands battling for first price. The jury sat at the back of the hall - behind a large curtain! Said the jury president: we only want to judge the sound, not the presentation, the costumes or the reputation.

A man who Gets It.

jan

Indeed, some people can be quite, erm, distracting
Brassed Off

(A very good film, BTW)
 
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