LANCE ARMSTRONG a true sports hero!

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Really planned systemic doping and you think the 2012 TDF winner is clean ....:rolleyes: ............... Yep systemic doping, every 170 yrs ...:p


On the one hand I never said anything about the 2012 TdF winner at all, on the other hand the '12 winner competed and won in the '12 Olympics as well (more testing) and he competed and won some in more races in 3 years than than Lance did during his whole TdF winning streak which would mean much more testing again. So in the final analysis the '12 winner is more likely to have been clean than Armstrong.

The point of your 'every 170 yrs' is a complete mystery if there actually is one.
 
BUSTED:
http://www.usada.org/cyclinginvestigationstatement.html

The guys who are going to testify are the only ones with testicles.
It does not matter that doping was the culture of the day, DOPING IS CHEATING.

Cal: If your not guilty one fights tooth and nail to keep ones good name.

Originally Posted by a.wayne
Really planned systemic doping and you think the 2012 TDF winner is clean .... ............... Yep systemic doping, every 170 yrs ...

You do realise that Wiggins walked away from his contract with Cofidis because of the teams doping culture?
 
Armstrong to sue 26 serial liars named in USADA dossier.

Texas-- Lance Armstrong's lawyers confirmed that they will be bringing a lawsuit against the 26 liars in a RICO suit.

"Lance is the only innocent one here," said Armstrong's lawyer, "All the mountains of fabricated evidence and the conspiracy of 26 serial liars have all ganged up on one innocent, sweet, lovable guy. Why? Book deals! You know, anyone can "write" a book and put it up on Amazon. Zabriske just wrote "50 Shades of Doping". He's probably making millions off my clients suffering".

The lawyer continued, "Mr. Armstrong passed every drug test he ever took. Even the 1 or 2 he failed. Just ask him."

Johan Bruyneel has reportedly not been answering any of Armstrong's calls,
tweets, emails or Likes. "It's as if the distance between Johan and Lance has
grown to be the circumference of France in a counterclockwise direction, including the Alpe d'huez." said the lawyer.
 
Yes, because you missed the point entirely :rolleyes:, now be careful , they may come for your push-pull next ...
:p
well, what's the point of this?
a few overweight Americans that didn't even know that cycling as a sport existed are his best defenders?
let me tel you what the point of this is: if I were him, I wouldn't give a rat's *** about this whole deal, REGARDLESS if I'd be innocent or not.
everyone giving this whole deal too much attention is absolutely pathetic and I don't expect you to understand why.
 
well, what's the point of this?
a few overweight Americans that didn't even know that cycling as a sport existed are his best defenders?
let me tel you what the point of this is: if I were him, I wouldn't give a rat's *** about this whole deal, REGARDLESS if I'd be innocent or not.
everyone giving this whole deal too much attention is absolutely pathetic and I don't expect you to understand why.

Yeah, Drugstrong may keep his millions after all this. Cheating was worth it!!! Look at the ruler flat response on speakers...

However there is are other possible lawsuits and legal ramifications that may still happen to Drugstrong. Maybe he will turn into Asstrong with clenched butt cheeks if he does time.

BTW he was a known doper in cycling circles while he was an amateur.

I await Drugstrong's response to the USADA dossier.
Not his PR agent, AKA a lame *** lawyer.
 
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everyone giving this whole deal too much attention is absolutely pathetic and I don't expect you to understand why.
C'mon, enlighten us Sir - bet you cant.

I await Drugstrong's response to the USADA dossier.
Not his PR agent, AKA a lame *** lawyer.
Me too, though I suspect that given his child like behaviour so far the only response the world will get is from his legal team. (drug abuse also twiddles with the mind you know)
 
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drug abuse also twiddles with the mind you know
You know? That's what it's all about. But please do not confound drugs for recreational use with drugs only used to beat other lesser beings (the ones not drugged haha). That should be discouraged because it goes against the spirit of competition. Yep, Armstrong is not a nice individual but it is an excellent cheater. If you're going to cheat at least do it right.
 
Ahhh, Cassiel.......
I thought I recognised your mode.
Best go see your doctor and ask him about the effects of performance enhancing drugs on the mind........rather than making wild assumptions based on ones own recreational use.
No dope, no fun. This 'clean' Tour is gonna be as 'fun' as an AA meeting. I'd never forget the first time I tried skiing stoned. I forgot about the course and went out of bounds looking for the eagle's nest. I was 50 meters from the top of the mountain and everything suddenly went cloudy and fear gripped me with a hand of stone. Oh man, I've never felt as alive. I really can't describe it. In fact, it was too much: I couldn't cope. I turned back with my tail between my legs. So I can imagine what it must be cycling the Alps with the body full of dope. Balls of steel. Those men were heroes!!! Playing with death. And if you're feeling like moralizing, just stop and think twice. Think about the health risk of mountaineers. And they do it by their own free will. Now try to do that stoned, no, better not. Crazy stuff.
 
A sports man on performance enhancing drugs beating one that is not, is the same as Ferrari running a 1000cc over size engine and beating the other manufacturers -
ITS CHEATING!!!!!

I was talking about morality issues.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:
Definition of morality
noun (plural moralities)
[mass noun]
principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour:
the matter boiled down to simple morality: innocent prisoners ought to be freed
[count noun] a particular system of values and principles of conduct:
a bourgeois morality
the extent to which an action is right or wrong:
the issue of the morality of the possession of nuclear weapons
Origin:
late Middle English: from Old French moralite or late Latin moralitas, from Latin moralis (see moral)
 
:rofl:

'The modern sport of doping (like auto ICE 'Bassers') need not do more than be strapped down and pumped full of nandralone, EPO, Diuretics etc in ever increasing quantities, some what in the manner of the way the 'bar' is raised in High Jump'. No longer is there the need for getting sweaty, dirty or bashed about.......... or hard work in general.
Rules:
1) Competitors must have no regard for 'Self' or 'Others'.

The winner is the one judged to have:
1) The Most fractured mind.
2) The Most stressed bodily functions.
3) The Least understanding of the definition of 'Morals' in sport.'
 
It gets worse:

"Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong allegedly bribed competitors to let him win races, according to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. The network’s Four Corners program said Australian cyclist Phil Anderson witnessed Armstrong bribing a competitor to fix a series of races, among other allegations . . . At least 15 more cyclists have been linked to Armstrong’s banned Italian sport doctor in an intricate scheme of money laundering, tax evasion, and widespread doping. Former Giro d'Italia winners Michele Scarponi and Denis Menchov, and this year’s Olympic champion Alexandre Vinokourov, are under investigation for doping under the supervision of Dr. Michele Ferrari, Gazzetta dello Sport reported . . . The final word on Armstrong’s seven Tour de France titles could come Monday when cycling’s governing body responds to the US Anti-Doping Agency report that paints him as a longtime drug cheat."

Yeah, it's just entertainment. Cycling is just a form of reality show...
 
Drugstrong was taking steroids before his cancer. They are the likely cause of him getting cancer, because his type is somewhat rare in men his age.

So he caused his own cancer from doping. Then created Livestrong. Maybe it should have been called Ironicstrong.

He came back from cancer and continued to dope with the newer oxygen drugs and win the TDF. His VO2 max uptake is 82, high for sure, but not freaky enough to win the TDF, au natural.
Look at his pre-cancer Tour performances when he was using roids and stuff, which won't alter oxygen uptake. He sucked. He was a very good one day race specialist.

Buying and selling races in cycling used to be very common.
 
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