Lightspeed Attenuator a new passive preamp

leaving the 360k in circuit is specifically for low level listening.
The output impedance of the signal side (when listening to low level signal) is largely determined by the Shunt LDR. The high value of the Series LDR hardly affects the impedance.

The attenuation for the T attenuator at Zo=6k tops out at 88dB when R2=0. I need to rewrite the spreadsheet to allow different resistor values that would result in higher attenuation, even if the price is a higher Zo. But I'm guessing that 88dB is practically silent, isn't it?

Karl
 
a low value pot can only put a low value resistance in the circuit formed by the regulated voltage source and the LED.
That results in a higher value of minimum current through the LEDs.
That reduces the range of attenuation available from the LDR/LED combination.

Thanks for the explaination.


I want to use a digital pot to control the LDR but can't get a log one that is the right value so would there be any problem with using a 100k linear digital pot with a resistor across the input like this?
 
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Thanks for the explaination.


I want to use a digital pot to control the LDR but can't get a log one that is the right value so would there be any problem with using a 100k linear digital pot with a resistor across the input like this?

Hmm, what would the ultimate curve look like after you combine the S-curve with the non-linear curve of the LDR module? Have you tried graphing the composite?

Karl
 
Hmm, what would the ultimate curve look like after you combine the S-curve with the non-linear curve of the LDR module? Have you tried graphing the composite?

Karl

Not sure, only ordered my LDRs yesterday! I'll have a play when they arrive. With a 256 step digital pot there would be room to adjust the resulting curve in software. I'll be controlling the digital pot via I2C from an ardunio.
 
Remote control for the "Lightspeed" LDR configuration designed by George

Hello maxw

Oh good point. I can't find one that takes more than 1mA. Useless!

That's why I designed the Voltage Controlled Current Source (VCCS) module with an Infra Red interface for remote control. It can be configured to deliver up to 20ma to the LDR LEDs. It has volume and balance control from the use of front panel push button switches on your preamp, or an Infra Red remote controller and one VCCS user has also interfaced a microcontroller to the serial ports on the DS1802. It can also be set up to run LDRs in balanced signal mode by modifying the voltage relationships in the voltage bias chain.

I can now supply very low noise discrete replacements for the TL431 shunt regs in the bias chain and for the 12 volt series reg powering the 12 volt supply.

Regards
Paul
 
That's why I designed the Voltage Controlled Current Source (VCCS) module with an Infra Red interface for remote control. It can be configured to deliver up to 20ma to the LDR LEDs. It has volume and balance control from the use of front panel push button switches on your preamp, or an Infra Red remote controller and one VCCS user has also interfaced a microcontroller to the serial ports on the DS1802. It can also be set up to run LDRs in balanced signal mode by modifying the voltage relationships in the voltage bias chain.

Nice. Got a shematic or a link?
 
Got my VCCS LDR running...

I can recommend maximus's VCCS LDR control boards with the infrared remote- very well thought out and pcb's are top notch.

I have been using it for a 8 months now- works like a charm! Even with matched LDR's, I get a slight shift of image to the left on low volume. Having the balance controls on the remote has been very useful to compensate. I'm using a small Lamdba 15V power supply I found at a surplus shop.

pre>VCCS LDR>amp.

A big thanks to George, udaily and maximus. The most transparent volume control I've ever had!:D

-Kent
 

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LDR Imp curves

Hi,

as I´m driving a fairly low impedance amp (10k7) with those LDRs, I wonder if it would be better to lower the total impedance of the LDR attenuator by paralleling LDRs in the signal path, e.g. paralleling the serial LDR. Or , maybe paralleling serial and shunt LDRs (total of 8 LDRs i.s.o. 4)

I tried to predict the impedances (see below) . What would be most important to look for ? eg.flat curves (=constant impedance at the amp or source over the attenuation range), or equal number of shunt/series LDRs to compensate distortion ?.....

Cheers, Frank

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Hi James,

yeah, already envisaged the DCB1.

But as George mentioned, "no buffer" should be desirable, maybe I have to try different things:


  1. Leave the classic 4 LDR setup (alredy sounds great) or
  2. Modify the input imp from 10k7 to ca. 50k and/or
  3. Modify the LDR Att total impedance by paralleling LDRs or
  4. use a DCB1 (without capacitor in the signal path
To keep the sound as uncoloured as possible, I wonder what suits best